Osama Bin Laden is dead

Since we don't have all the information, its not easy to give credit, other than gratz to those in the military who have done an amazing job.

The US has been trying to kill him since the 1998 bombings. Only took 3 administrations, so not too shabby.
 
Jeff, You are completely correct. I mentioned it once but it wasn't clear enough. I was referring to people I know and people's comments were on the new sites.

... But don't be surprised when the next election comes along that Obama's team won't try taking credit for it. You live in the US and I hope you won't be dumb enough to believe it this next election
 
Maagisk said:
Here's my background before I rant. I'm from Norway... Congrats Bush! End rant
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I respect your opinion, and I know where you are coming from. Would Bin Laden not have been caught without certain security policies implemented by Bush? Probably not, and we should give him credit for that.

However, when all this recession bullshit kicked in, it really was a fault of Bush-era tax cuts and attitudes towards big business. Yet Obama and the Left gets the blame for it. Bush policies puts big businesses over the people, tax cuts for the super wealthy, fail ensues, yet the Right wags the finger at Obama. I don't understand the logic.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Bush is a decent person, but his administration was full of fail/greed/bettering their lives before the rest of 'Merica.

As far as I'm concerned, Obama gets the blame for all the economic stuff, which was really a fault of Bush, but Bin Laden gets killed in his administration, mostly to the credit of Bush. Score is even, meh. Next case! :)
 
this was the last thing bin laden ever saw

jack-bauer-24-gun.jpg
 
JeffTD said:
What's key to consider here is that at no point has Obama taken credit for this, and anyone saying he's to thank for it is stretching the truth quite a bit.
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actually, not only is he taking credit for it... he is saying that the operation that was spearheaded by him is what lead to bin laden's demise.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body. For over two decades, bin Laden has been al Qaeda’s leader and symbol and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al Qaeda. His death does not mark the end of our effort. There’s no doubt that al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must and we will remain vigilant at home and abroad. As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader. He was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al Qaeda slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.
Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people. Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.
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Maagisk said:
Congrats Bush! End rant
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Firstly, thanks for your service.
Medicaid was passed in 1965 under Lyndon Johnson when Obama was 4. The US still spends 6 times more than any other nation on defense. Defense spending was higher last year than it ever was under Bush and is projected to be even higher this year.
I watched the entire press conference and at no point did Obama "take credit" however as Commander in Chief he is certainly entitled to. You can certainly disagree with his decisions but that doesn't change his position over our military even if everything was set in motion by his predecessor.
It's not any different than when Bush Sr. took credit for the fall of communism.
 
timislegend said:
actually, not only is he taking credit for it... he is saying that the operation that was spearheaded by him is what lead to bin laden's demise.
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"at my direction," when spoken by the commander-in-Chief, does not mean he's taking credit for it or having spearheaded it. You can read into it that way if (since) you don't like him, but the fact of the matter is that "at my direction" simply means he authorized the operation and instructed that it be carried out.
 
Hmmm...

It is a good thing that it finally happened, but i feel kinda bad when i see people dancing and singing outside the White House now...
It reminds me of another group of people dancing and singing in the streets when 911 happened.

I would be OK with it, if they reacted this way to news about capturing Osama and brining him to USA for a trial.

They killed the bastard and it is good news for world peace, a clear signal saying that if you mess with the civilized world, you will pay.
 
TesticleMilkshake said:
I respect your opinion, and I know where you are coming from. Would Bin Laden not have been caught without certain security policies implemented by Bush? Probably not, and we should give him credit for that.

However, when all this recession bullshit kicked in, it really was a fault of Bush-era tax cuts and attitudes towards big business. Yet Obama and the Left gets the blame for it. Bush policies puts big businesses over the people, tax cuts for the super wealthy, fail ensues, yet the Right wags the finger at Obama. I don't understand the logic.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Bush is a decent person, but his administration was full of fail/greed/bettering their lives before the rest of 'Merica.

As far as I'm concerned, Obama gets the blame for all the economic stuff, which was really a fault of Bush, but Bin Laden gets killed in his administration, mostly to the credit of Bush. Score is even, meh. Next case! :)
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Too be honest, after doing research on the economic crisis in the US, I can't tell you much, it's too complicated, it really is. To blame a party over it is nuts.. And there are many aspects of it that are beyond anyone to blame. Most of it from what I understand is just simply error. I certainly don't see why Obama should get blame for any of it and I don't see why Bush should either. And trust me, I was a criminal justice major in college and I understand the hate after studying white collar crime. Chenney is a proven slime ball and has no business looking out for a country. I'm not picking sides, I'm just calling it how I see it. And as I see it, bush did not do well with the budget but obama made it worse
 
egan. said:
I watched the entire press conference and at no point did Obama "take credit"
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:guh:


yes he did... not for the ongoing pressure influenced by the previous occupations but for the capture / killing of osama bin laden was directly credited to barack obama.
 
I just stopped playing COMPUTER GAEM and noticed this was all over the place. This would have been big news TEN YEARS AGO, but I feel there may be more important issues right now. rite?
 
aramism said:
have you seen 24? lol... chuck norris is awesome don't get me wrong but jack bauer is pretty much the ultimate action hero ever in history.
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Jack bauer isn't a real person. He loses strictly based on the fact that the asshole who plays him is a total drunk loser.

Steven Seagal is fat, plays in a blues band, and still trains pro MMA fighters (or so Machita/Silva/Aldo would have us believe) and acts in hilariously awesome action movies.

Hahahaha side note I think it's hilarious we are arguing about this.
 
Sloan said:
I just stopped playing COMPUTER GAEM and noticed this was all over the place. This would have been big news TEN YEARS AGO, but I feel there may be more important issues right now. rite?
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:( ...wrong


this is a really big deal.
 
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