Overheads high pass

[Klosure]

Do you find that you have to high pass overheads a lot in a heavy mix?

Ive had to go wa high otherwise the deep sound of cybles takes over. Turn it down an they are lost. I use rooms to get some more depth behind them.


What do you normally do?

 

[Trevoire520]

Personally I don't high pass my overheads too much as I get alot of my drum sound from them. Alot of guys here are setting their HPF about 500hz though to eliminate drums in the overheads and just get cymbals.

 

[Klosure]

The only problem is though is that most overheads contain little drum information as opposed to say close mics? I find it hard sometimes to get that.


Turned up loud the overheads can destroy the mix, down low they disappear.

hat the hell are you actually supposed to do with them compaired to the close mics. And the rooms mics, this can just make the whole thing sound realy stadium sounding. Yes many albums its a closer but big sound.

 

[Ermz]

Really depends on the type of mix you're shooting for. If you want super-clinical stuff then yes just high pass until you've eliminated all the information the cymbals don't need in the mix.

If you're going for something with a bit more body, then maybe try not to go any higher than 120, and cut out the rest of the cymbal stuff you don't need with a mid cut.

 

[Seth Munson]

For me its more of the drummer and his performance.
If he is good enough I try to keep it really uber low.

 

[JeffEstrada]

For me, For example if the snare drum is really bad and I can hear it through the overheads...I highpass the overheads to cut it out.

 

[Tommy Gun]

I close mic, and HPF on each cymbal/hat/ride a little differently depending on the tone I want from each one, then I use the super-high-up room mics to add a little glue and add some body on parts that should breathe a bit more. The room mics generally just have a touch of low and high pass.

 

[NSGUITAR]

1000Hz :3

 

[AllanD]

I'm doing a hard rock thing, I'm passing them at 200 since the kick patterns are simple and on beat.

 

[acappa]

I usually high pass at 500hz, but normally struggle with the midrange, you guys use to cut some mids?? like 1khz¿?

 

[NSGUITAR]

I usually high pass at 500hz, but normally struggle with the midrange, you guys use to cut some mids?? like 1khz¿?

I was kidding lol

 

[Dollarosa]

I high pass to about 200hz, and cut around 1Khz to 2Khz to get rid of the trashy sound. I sometimes will boost certain frequencies in the low end after the high pass with a separate eq

 

[Emdprodukt]

I usually highpass around 300-500hz + small cuts when it's needed.

 

[luismars]

Sometimes I HP 200-450 Hz, but now I'm trying to get a good sound sidechaining the kick (and probably the snare) to a multiband compressor or an automated EQ.

 

[crillemannen]

120-150hz

 

[schust]

i'm usually around 200hz too. it provides some nice low-end to my hats. i don't close mic the hats.

 

[Blacklight_Studio]

Realy depends on the room and drummer. Weak drummer needs to be resampled most of the times so the OH channel will have just cymbals information in them. If the room is not treated well or sound overdamped there is also no need in anything except the cymbals in the OH track. In the good room with a good drummer well-positioned OH's will play a major role in the drum sound and I will never highpass them more then 150hz.

 

[Deadstar]

i hear (i think) the use of some exciters too in the latest producions/mixes.. anyone tried (with luck) using exciters?

 

[Sly]

Generally eliminate the low end rumble, using a highpass @ 500 or 600/650 Hz. Doing this I still keep the body of the cymbals.
Then I usually go for a touch of EQ to make the cymbals smoother. Watch out the 1k to 4k area and use a good EQ.

When Jacob Hansen mixed the album of my band he told he highpassed the OH @ 600 Hz, then removed a bit of 2-4k. Then he would copy the OH track in parallel and send it to a limiter for a big squash, so he gets dynamics and smoothness.

 

[crillemannen]

Generally eliminate the low end rumble, using a highpass @ 500 or 600/650 Hz. Doing this I still keep the body of the cymbals.

I disagree with that. There is no body left at 500hz it is starting disappearing after 200