This embodies pretty much everything I hate about hardcore, I don't mind the music but the attitudes of the fans and the bands are fucking ridiculous
The fucking fans think they can just come in a venue and run the place, trash shit and throw fists in the pit and jump everywhere.
The last hardcore show we had at my venue there were so many fights in the pit, and security couldn't even do anything about it because they tried to stop them and the "hardcore crews" kept ganging up on security to keep them from stopping the fights. Fucking ridiculous stuff.
I have absolutely no respect for these type of people because they have absolutely no respect for the venues that hold their shows.
I can see where you're coming from, but in this particular show i didn't see any fights or that kind of b.s.
"The fucking fans think they can just come in a venue and run the place, trash shit and throw fists in the pit and jump everywhere"
-> i can see the problem with people trashing shit, but throwing fists and jumping everywhere ? This is the same as slam-dancing and headbanging and going nuts in a metal show. I hope there will always be ridiculous circle-pits at Exodus shows, as well as at Terror shows.
I think one can have fun, go nuts, and yet be respectful.
And also : not all the fans are the same !!! The one that annoys you the most are the only one you seem to remember, and the rest who are acting cool seem invisible to you (which is a very natural thing).
It's also natural to dis something when you experencied something bad out of it, even if there is some good to it, but you missed it. Like one who's not into rap might dis it because he only thinks of it in terms of gang violence/machismo/lack of musicianship and so on, and miss the rich lyrical content it can have and the fact that there are some real talented musicians in it (see The Roots for instance) and cool music to listen to, regardless of it being played with real drums or just a turntable or a MPC.
I've seen fights as much in hardcore shows as in metal shows.
I've seen disrespectful assholes as much in hardcore shows as in metal shows.
I hate the hardcore guy who stage dives and walks on people's heads in the front row and punch one guy's face on purpose as much as i hate the metal guy who's gonna throw a beer can in the air during the show or shove the shit out of some guy who bumped into him by accident because of some pit movement.
There is definitely a crew/let's be tough b.s more in hardcore than in metal tho', but again that has not much to do with music and the live energy, but just a minority of stupid people acting stupid and ruining the show.
When i say "you should get into hardcore", i meant "you should check out those bands affiliated with hardcore" more than "you should embrace all the hardcore clichés, including the bad stuff".
I guess you weren't into hardcore to begin with, and you experienced the bad side of it
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