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Spiff
I have the power
Top stuff! 
You should submit a few to the mags or whatever it is wannabe rock photographers do to get noticed!!
You should submit a few to the mags or whatever it is wannabe rock photographers do to get noticed!!
Thanks chaps. 
I always think it's a waste of time submitting these to the rock rags - they like a certain style of live gig pic, exactly the kind of thing I won't do because I think it's bland and boring. Oh well, maybe Ross Halfin will see these and decide he needs a new assistant. Mind yer heads, them's low flying pigs. 
I always think it's a waste of time submitting these to the rock rags - they like a certain style of live gig pic, exactly the kind of thing I won't do because I think it's bland and boring. Oh well, maybe Ross Halfin will see these and decide he needs a new assistant. Mind yer heads, them's low flying pigs. 
phlogiston
Bejabbers!
Colour film expensive over there? 
Nice work, regardless.
Hey, are they doctored at all? (Contrast turned up, background cut out, that sort of thing) Or are they actually the photos that you took. Extra points for non-doctoring if that's the case.
Nice work, regardless.
Hey, are they doctored at all? (Contrast turned up, background cut out, that sort of thing) Or are they actually the photos that you took. Extra points for non-doctoring if that's the case.
When you work in a camera shop no film is expensive.
A straight scan looks pretty crappy so that do need a little bit of work, mosty just removing dust and getting the blacks back, but otherwise they are non-doctored images - I'm old school, no cropping imges for me.
A straight scan looks pretty crappy so that do need a little bit of work, mosty just removing dust and getting the blacks back, but otherwise they are non-doctored images - I'm old school, no cropping imges for me.
Blitzkrieg
Master Exploder
Cyclonus
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Lord Tim
That guy from LORD
Spiff
I have the power
Dreamy, don't waste your time with that hack Ross Halfin. Hell, don't even waste your time with that useless waste of space Annie Liebowitz - you, Beverley Shortland, shall take rock photography to a new level. You shall inspire millions to take up photography again - you shall be the Da Vinci of photography. When people say "Oh, this photo is a bunch of BS" it shall be a compliment! Dame Beverley Shortland? St Beverley, more like!
Of course, I've been known to be slightly off the mark before.
Of course, I've been known to be slightly off the mark before.
A Nikon F90x Pro, with an 80-200 f2.8 for the close ups and a 20-35 f2.8 for the wide stuff.
Spiff - Dame Beverley Shortland... yes, I like it, I like it alot.
Spiff - Dame Beverley Shortland... yes, I like it, I like it alot.
Southy
Proud Brisbane Metaller
How much do lenses like that set you back? A couple of hundred quid?
I need to buy a new camera (along with a car, a motorbike, a computer and a mountain bike), and want to buy a decent one. Do you recommmend that I buy a Nikon, or something else?
I need to buy a new camera (along with a car, a motorbike, a computer and a mountain bike
), and want to buy a decent one. Do you recommmend that I buy a Nikon, or something else?
Those particular lenses retail for £769 and £1500. I bought them used, and I work in a camera store so I get a discount. I actually paid £288 and £600 which wasn't bad at all.
I like the Nikons best (obviously) but it depends at what level you want to jump in really. Depending on how much you know about photography and how much you want to spend I'd say you'd be looking at the Nikon F65 or the F80 - the F65 is their entry level model, lot's of auto features but you still have manual overrides so you can be completely creative if you want to. The F80 takes many of the features of the F100 (one of their pro bodies) but it's less than half the price so very good value. They usually both come with something like a 28-80 or 28-100 lens - it's a fairly cheap plastic lens but it does the job, and you can usually get a twin lens kit with that lens and a longer one too.
I like the Nikons best (obviously
) but it depends at what level you want to jump in really. Depending on how much you know about photography and how much you want to spend I'd say you'd be looking at the Nikon F65 or the F80 - the F65 is their entry level model, lot's of auto features but you still have manual overrides so you can be completely creative if you want to. The F80 takes many of the features of the F100 (one of their pro bodies) but it's less than half the price so very good value. They usually both come with something like a 28-80 or 28-100 lens - it's a fairly cheap plastic lens but it does the job, and you can usually get a twin lens kit with that lens and a longer one too. Woah those retail prices are expeeeeeeeeeeeeeeensive! I guess only professional (or very keen) photographers would use them, wouldn't they?
Nikons are reliable then? My old camera (compact one, whatever you call them) was a Rollei, which I bought in Doncaster (Sth Yorks), and was great, till a part went. To get the part replaced would have cost the same as the camera cost originally. Would Nikon parts be readily available in Australia (unlike the Rollei ones)?
I'll have to do some price checking on the F65 and F80! An entry level one would be ok for me at this stage. Better than what I've had in the past anyway!
Ah, just found them, and the F55. What's that one like? Woah, the F80 costs a tad more than I can afford at this stage. And as for the F100 and F5.......... I've got so many things to buy in the coming months, I haven't got the dosh for a flash one.
Nikons are reliable then? My old camera (compact one, whatever you call them) was a Rollei, which I bought in Doncaster (Sth Yorks), and was great, till a part went. To get the part replaced would have cost the same as the camera cost originally. Would Nikon parts be readily available in Australia (unlike the Rollei ones)?
I'll have to do some price checking on the F65 and F80! An entry level one would be ok for me at this stage. Better than what I've had in the past anyway!
Ah, just found them, and the F55. What's that one like? Woah, the F80 costs a tad more than I can afford at this stage. And as for the F100 and F5..........
I've got so many things to buy in the coming months, I haven't got the dosh for a flash one.
Mark
Not blessed, or merciful
Nikon parts should be available in any decent camera shop, Win Try shopping for second hand stuff, you can get some mint stuff at shit hot prices, depending on where you look. (I'm lucky, Dreamy knows if something's in shite condition or not).
Try shopping for second hand stuff, you can get some mint stuff at shit hot prices, depending on where you look. (I'm lucky, Dreamy knows if something's in shite condition or not).
Win - ignore the F55 and get the F65 if it's in your price range. It will certainly do a great job, just be gentle with it.
Getting parts for the Rollei is hard because it's a small German company - Nikon are a big Japanese company and you should find parts for that pretty readily available. I warn you now, whichever camera you go for, be it Nikon, Canon, Pentax or Minoltauke: it ain't gonna last as long as it should. 
It's a cliche but they don't make them like they used to. You could look into getting a used camera to get the most out of your money - a Nikon F70 was a great camera, very sophisticated (the F80 is it's replacement) and well built. I just went to Ted's web page but it's crap 
so I've used Jessops (the company I work for) as a guideline. They list one in Condition 3, so a fair amount of use, and although there is no price I can see how much they paid for it - I would expect to sell that for around £150-180. You'd need a lens then too, but they're pretty cheap to buy new, let alone second hand. You could probably get the whole thing for £300 if not less. It would be worth seeing if you could find one of those in good nick. the only other 'older' models I'd look at would be the F60 (forerunner to the F65 and a model below the F70) and the F90x (forerunner to the F100 and a model above the F70). I just bought Mark and F90x in excellent condition for £288 staff price - my one cost me £1400 6 years ago. 
So there's an idea of the savings to be made.
When I bought my camera I saved money by having it kitted with pretty crummy lenses. They actually did the job ok, but I did promise myself that when the time came to change them I was going to do it right - buy the best even if it meant waiting. For instance that telephoto lens that I'm using, I only bought that a few months ago - but I've been waiting for one to come into the store in excellent condition for 2 years! We've had quite a few in but they've always been a bit bashed about. That's the problem when you buy pro stuff used, it means some dodgy press photographer who doesn't look after his gear has had it first. They're expensive for a number of reasons- build quality, optical quality, and they are 'fast' zooms (zooms that let alot of light in at all focal lengths). That last bit was very important to me because I wanted to do gigs without resorting to flash. I've just realised how long I've been wittering on for - I'll stop now.
Getting parts for the Rollei is hard because it's a small German company - Nikon are a big Japanese company and you should find parts for that pretty readily available. I warn you now, whichever camera you go for, be it Nikon, Canon, Pentax or Minolta
uke: it ain't gonna last as long as it should. It's a cliche but they don't make them like they used to. You could look into getting a used camera to get the most out of your money - a Nikon F70 was a great camera, very sophisticated (the F80 is it's replacement) and well built. I just went to Ted's web page but it's crap so I've used Jessops (the company I work for) as a guideline. They list one in Condition 3, so a fair amount of use, and although there is no price I can see how much they paid for it - I would expect to sell that for around £150-180. You'd need a lens then too, but they're pretty cheap to buy new, let alone second hand. You could probably get the whole thing for £300 if not less. It would be worth seeing if you could find one of those in good nick. the only other 'older' models I'd look at would be the F60 (forerunner to the F65 and a model below the F70) and the F90x (forerunner to the F100 and a model above the F70). I just bought Mark and F90x in excellent condition for £288 staff price - my one cost me £1400 6 years ago. So there's an idea of the savings to be made. When I bought my camera I saved money by having it kitted with pretty crummy lenses. They actually did the job ok, but I did promise myself that when the time came to change them I was going to do it right - buy the best even if it meant waiting. For instance that telephoto lens that I'm using, I only bought that a few months ago - but I've been waiting for one to come into the store in excellent condition for 2 years! We've had quite a few in but they've always been a bit bashed about. That's the problem when you buy pro stuff used, it means some dodgy press photographer who doesn't look after his gear has had it first. They're expensive for a number of reasons- build quality, optical quality, and they are 'fast' zooms (zooms that let alot of light in at all focal lengths). That last bit was very important to me because I wanted to do gigs without resorting to flash. I've just realised how long I've been wittering on for - I'll stop now.
phlogiston
Bejabbers!
When I want to take photos like that I use the right mouse button and click "Save image as..." It works out a lot cheaper, and easier too, because I never go to see any bands anyway.
However, it does make taking family snaps a little bit more difficult, because you've got to get them all up on stage at the same time, and Grandma doesn't move quite as fast as she used to.
However, it does make taking family snaps a little bit more difficult, because you've got to get them all up on stage at the same time, and Grandma doesn't move quite as fast as she used to.
