PILLOWCASES?!

I've actually never even seen a pillow case on a seat. Wow... that is lame. I say we steal all the pillowcases we can, cut holes for eyes, and then run around, haunting the venue, during DSO like the ghosts of ProgPower past.

:muahaha:

Zod
 
If they still give you a problem, come find me and I'LL tell them to fuck off.

Because you are -so- intimidating ;p


The main people who do this, btw, are gold badge holders. They go in early, put towels down or whatever to save their seats then leave. But once a band starts, if an ass isn't in the seat, I think people should feel free to take it.
 
I've actually never even seen a pillow case on a seat. Wow... that is lame. I say we steal all the pillowcases we can, cut holes for eyes, and then run around, haunting the venue, during DSO like the ghosts of ProgPower past.

:muahaha:

Zod

That might actually get me to stay for their set >_>
 
I've actually never even seen a pillow case on a seat. Wow... that is lame. I say we steal all the pillowcases we can, cut holes for eyes, and then run around, haunting the venue, during DSO like the ghosts of ProgPower past.

:muahaha:

Zod

:lol:Co-workers are wondering why I'm laughing out loud to myself right now.
 
Alright notes taken. If I get a seat I will have my butt on it or leave for someone else (or ask politely to someone nearby to save it for me if I have to go for a bio-break). But if you find me sleeping on it don't make a fuss and don't toss me away, I'm not a pillow case!
 
People hate confrontation, and I am extremely blunt and not afraid to to tell an asshole off. It's not about being threatening, it's about getting in someone's face, because with everyone watching, they'll back off almost every time.
That's true. But who wants confrontation at a Metal show? It's important to remember, just because someone doesn't share our perspective, doesn't make them wrong.

I don't think it should be too much trouble to ask someone sitting next to you to hold your seat while you run to the bathroom or grab a drink. That said, it's unreasonable for someone to expect they can claim a seat for the entire evening and then wander off indefinitely.

Zod
 
I don't think it should be too much trouble to ask someone sitting next to you to hold your seat while you run to the bathroom or grab a drink.

Zod

I don't see why putting a pillowcase (or towel or whatever) to save a seat is any worse than asking someone to save it for you. If you get stuck in line getting food/drinks, using the restroom, etc., then that poor sod feels like they can't leave until you get back!

Personally, I think that if you get to the venue early enough...and you DON'T save 15 seats for all your closest friends...and you plan to have your butt in that seat for EVERY band...you should be able to run to the vendor room, bar, restroom, etc. in between sets without giving up your spot.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I've actually never even seen a pillow case on a seat. Wow... that is lame. I say we steal all the pillowcases we can, cut holes for eyes, and then run around, haunting the venue, during DSO like the ghosts of ProgPower past.

Ooohh! I'll be Devin Townsend! "Stick it in your ass!!!!" :lol:
 
I have to admit, the pillow case is a new one for me too - never heard of that one!

I was on the board a few years back though when somebody mentioned that a plate with pizza crust was "holding a spot" for someone (lol).

Usually if I'm scouting a spot to sit I do it between sets when the lighting is at a premium, if people are social I'll ask if the spots taken, if they are looking all grumpy at me I just sit, but on the edge of the seat to make it look like I won't be there that long (usually takes their bark down a level or two), then if someone isn't back by the beginning of the next set, I just settle my ass in for the duration (ha ha).
 
I agree that the pillow case/merch/T-shirt/etc. on the seats is somewhere between irritating and infuriating. However, I have to disagree as to having someone who is saving the seats. In my case, I go with friends every year and it is a shared responsibility that at least one of us stays in the seats between bands as the others go to the band signings, merch area, bathroom, etc. As of last year I was part of the crew and I would go backstage between bands--still leaving a friend at the seats. I always come back. This year, there are 5 of us and, as always, we sit side by side and do not waste seats. While I understand those that say they need to sit for a while every once in a while, it is equally understandable that during a fest day that spans 10 hours (or more), it is unreasonable to think that someone should be forced to stay in his seat without break, especially give the signings, merch area, necessary bathroom breaks and simple need to stretch your legs, etc. I prefer to sit at any concert possible and would pay for reserved seating in a second if it was offered. It isn't--and I'm OK with that. On the same token, I try and be respectful of others and do not put pillowcases, etc., on seats while they remain empty of anyone in the party. All I ask is that others be respectful of the fact that I and my friends have taken the effort to get the seats in the first place and there is ALWAYS at least one of us in the seats to let you know that the others are coming back. I have no problem if someone wants to sit in my seat UNTIL I COME BACK, so long as I get my seat when I come back. In the end, I know from experience that there are is always some amount of people who "abuse" the seat issue, but most of the attendees do what is right by their seats--stake their claims and then have at least one person there while others are gone and the the "gone" members return for the bands. Hopefully, we can all just get along if we play by the rules.
 
I agree that the pillow case/merch/T-shirt/etc. on the seats is somewhere between irritating and infuriating. However, I have to disagree as to having someone who is saving the seats. In my case, I go with friends every year and it is a shared responsibility that at least one of us stays in the seats between bands as the others go to the band signings, merch area, bathroom, etc. As of last year I was part of the crew and I would go backstage between bands--still leaving a friend at the seats. I always come back. This year, there are 5 of us and, as always, we sit side by side and do not waste seats. While I understand those that say they need to sit for a while every once in a while, it is equally understandable that during a fest day that spans 10 hours (or more), it is unreasonable to think that someone should be forced to stay in his seat without break, especially give the signings, merch area, necessary bathroom breaks and simple need to stretch your legs, etc. I prefer to sit at any concert possible and would pay for reserved seating in a second if it was offered. It isn't--and I'm OK with that. On the same token, I try and be respectful of others and do not put pillowcases, etc., on seats while they remain empty of anyone in the party. All I ask is that others be respectful of the fact that I and my friends have taken the effort to get the seats in the first place and there is ALWAYS at least one of us in the seats to let you know that the others are coming back. I have no problem if someone wants to sit in my seat UNTIL I COME BACK, so long as I get my seat when I come back. In the end, I know from experience that there are is always some amount of people who "abuse" the seat issue, but most of the attendees do what is right by their seats--stake their claims and then have at least one person there while others are gone and the the "gone" members return for the bands. Hopefully, we can all just get along if we play by the rules.

You sound eactly like the people we're not complaining about. In fact, I think the general consensus of the thread is that we wish more people would be like you and your friends. None of us expect people to sit for 10 hours straight, but it's the people who refuse to let someone sit down for a few minutes "because this seat is saved," and it's only made worse since quite often those people don't come back for a VERY long time. If they're going to be gone that long, why can't someone else sit there for a spell? Just say, "my buddies are in the merch room. They'll be back in a bit. Hope you don't mind them reclaiming their seat when they return." Not, "Sorry, these are all saved," and then look incredulous that someone dared to sit. At least they asked! I think part of the problem is people are worried that the person wont give up their seat when the friend returns... or they just don't like sitting by other people (suck it up, you're in public, deal with it).

I truly truly don't mind if someone says, "This is my buddy's seat. He just took off to the bathroom/for a smoke/for a drink and will be back in a few minutes." Great! Chances are I won't even bother with that seat then. I'll go find a seat that looks like they've heavily fortified it with jackets, bags, pizza plates, and pillowcases as if to make the statement, "don't you dare!" and I'll just park it. lol!

I want to join the pillowcase ghosts. Count me in! Who's bringing the scissors? :p
 
I've actually never even seen a pillow case on a seat. Wow... that is lame. I say we steal all the pillowcases we can, cut holes for eyes, and then run around, haunting the venue, during DSO like the ghosts of ProgPower past.

:muahaha:

Zod
Best suggestion ever. :heh:
 
Ooh, can I play "haunt ProgPower" too? :lol: That sounds like fun.
Of course. As with all things in life, the more the merrier.

I don't see why putting a pillowcase (or towel or whatever) to save a seat is any worse than asking someone to save it for you.
Because if you ask someone to save a seat for you and then you don't come back, the person you asked to save that seat can tell any perspective sitters, "I was saving it, but I don't think they're coming back." Unfortunately, pillow cases lack the ability to speak. Or maybe they possess that ability, but refuse to do so.

Best suggestion ever. :heh:
:)

Zod