Pod farm Post processing help?

[foundations]

im realy not happy with my tone atm, i dont know if its because i dont use any post pod farm plugins or processing on my guitars apart from an eq but my guitars sound realy scratchy and unhealthy, does any1 know how i could get more life and warmth into the tone?
i have been informed by a producer that he uses about 6 plugins post pod farm and i dont know what any of these are. can anyone tell me what i am missing to get a nice warm unscratchy tone?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15846363/Ambidjent Final.mp3

here is my pod farm tone walkthrough so that you can see my settings


and idealy i would like my tone to end up sounding warmer like this... (the mix is unmastered and unmixed but the guitars sound sick)
its a song my band recorded with another producer
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15846363/Districts.mp3

 

[X14Halo]

Wow, that Ambidjent20Final.mp3 sounds massive. What is the bass setup like, and how did you get that heavy bass shimmering effect like in the beginning after the first heavy guitar part?

 

[foundations]

thanks man. its just a sub drop
would realy appreciate some help on the guitar tone guys

 

[JohnGalloway]

What amp models are you using?

 

[Robert W]

If you want to improve your tone, then I'd recommend ditching Pod Farm and trying something like the LePou amp sims.

 

[foundations]

heres a newer version of the mix with a video, i stuck the american classic pre amp from pod farm on the guitar group bus and i think the guitar tone benefited from it

 

[foundations]

 

[foundations]

someone give me some useful advice?

 

[Ascendant]

Guits are sounding pretty dark in that second vid, either less low mids or more highs/presence, whichever way you want to balance it. Haven't used pod farm in a long while so I can't remember all the tricks but as stated, you might perhaps want to try some other amp sims.

 

[foundations]

ok, thanks ascendant. i have been getting a lot of comments saying my guitar tone is dark

 

[foundations]

oh and i ran everything through the american classic pre amp on that last video, maybe thats whats making it sound dark?

 

[jackbraglia]

using an IR instead of the podfarm cabinets could really help.

...and 6 plug-ins after podfarm is excessive

 

[kaamosprod]

Try to put PSP Mix saturator in the buss insert, it will help you have a more massive guitar sound and more controlled.

 

[oroinvictus]

using an IR instead of the podfarm cabinets could really help.

...and 6 plug-ins after podfarm is excessive

+1 to this. All I run is pod farm, a cab sim and surgical/color EQing.

 

[SocialNumb]

Apply lots of tact. Make sure to dime that fucker.

 

[foundations]

kk thanks guys.. im having slightly better results now using IR's
should i be using a saturater on my guitar bus? if so what ones do you guys recommend.. preferably free please

 

[foundations]

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15846363/Districts Epic Ending.mp3

heres a quick link to something i made using the IR
its not mixed properly yet so ignore everything else +thers no bass guitar as i dont have 1 to hand

 

[jackbraglia]

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15846363/Districts Epic Ending.mp3

heres a quick link to something i made using the IR
its not mixed properly yet so ignore everything else +thers no bass guitar as i dont have 1 to hand

sounds pretty on point to me. some might say your tone is still dark, but personally i prefer a darker guitar tone. and if you're going to use a saturator, I'd bypass the compressor you're using in podfarm. for saturation I like to use SPL TwinTube, it definitely will fill out your tone and add some extra grit. but I haven't heard of any free ones, I'm sure they're out there though. I use pro tools, so "free" isn't exactly in my vocabulary