Producer management?

[pharrell]

So it seems very common in the more mainstream pop/rock scene world but less in the metal scene?

has Andy got a manager?

I've heard a lot of mainstream producer management companies don't really deal with metal as there isn't as much money in it!!

How have you guys found it?

 

[James-Doolan]

Why would you need management? For reason's other than lazyness.

 

[Downtime]

Jason Suecof has one, for example. If it´s lazyness, the disability to remember dead-lines or even physically founded in his case, I don´t know...

 

[metalkingdom]

Why would you need management? For reason's other than lazyness.

Ahhh, you could be single and/or too busy for starters. Making the calls to label bitchin' about where your check is on day 74 of net 60 isn't the funnest thing to have to do - especially in the middle of a mix or project. A good manager can get gigs for you too when things are slow.

 

[James-Doolan]

I just cant see a manager doing anything for a producer that a producer cant do for himself/herself especialy if your a proffessional producer i mean thats the industry you work in everyday you should know all that you need to bar some legal thing or something but even then to be honest you should know contract law relating to the industry in which you work.

 

[metalkingdom]

I just cant see a manager doing anything for a producer that a producer cant do for himself/herself especialy if your a proffessional producer i mean thats the industry you work in everyday you should know all that you need to bar some legal thing or something but even then to be honest you should know contract law relating to the industry in which you work.

If you're not experienced in this field, how can you say "I just can't see..."

Kinda arrogant, don't you think? Besides, I just told you why.

 

[egan.]

Producers and engineers have managers for the same reasons why bands hire producers/mangers/bus drivers/guitar techs/etc..

It seems perfectly logical to me why some folks would choose to outsource aspects of their biz to experts. It free you to concentrate on what you do best. Don't confuse laziness with the luxuries afforded by success.

 

[Andy Sneap]

I've never bothered, I prefer to deal with labels myself, but it can be good , if you need to get aggressive with the label it doesn't reflect on the producer as much if a managers doing it.

 

[James-Doolan]

If you're not experienced in this field, how can you say "I just can't see..."

Kinda arrogant, don't you think? Besides, I just told you why.

I dont see how im being arrogant i was merely expressing an opinion you can agree or disagree (in your case disagree) and yes you are dead right i am not nearly as experienced in this industry as most people on this board (its a part time thing) in my opinion i dont think the metal industry has come so far that a producer/ engineer would need a manager, oh and the reasons you described for needing a manager sound like the job description of an assistant.

Does any one have any other reasons why a producer/engineer would need a manager?

 

[everybody's x]

Ahhh, you could be single and/or too busy for starters. Making the calls to label bitchin' about where your check is on day 74 of net 60 isn't the funnest thing to have to do - especially in the middle of a mix or project. A good manager can get gigs for you too when things are slow.

DUDE! net 74 would kick ass
90+ is "normal" around here, want to manage me?

 

[Andy Sneap]

try ten months and counting!

 

[metalkingdom]

74 days is when I start gettin' pissed. Ten months and it's time to get gangsta.

 

[everybody's x]

Yikes! I'll STFU now

 

[James Murphy]

If you're not experienced in this field, how can you say "I just can't see..."

+1

 

[everybody's x]

o/t
nice work Darth

 

[elmuchoescadawg]

I can thing of 3 known producers off the top of my head who have managers. A manager can be getting the next session lined up and negociated while your still working on the last one.

 

[greyskull]

good point.
i owe someone a county court judgement.
and some baliffs

 

[smy1]

@actofvengeance: another reason could be simply the disinterest in the business aspect. If you are a producer, you might not be a really technical engineer which means you are basically are in it for your creative skills (this is probably especially true in the pop/rap/dance scene).

Creativity and business rarely go hand in hand and I know *many* artists/creative people who simply suck at doing business because they don't care or don't feel comfortable about it.

The amount of artists I've seen who will simply prefer to lose money to having to deal with businesspeople is astounding!

 

[James-Doolan]

@actofvengeance: another reason could be simply the disinterest in the business aspect. If you are a producer, you might not be a really technical engineer which means you are basically are in it for your creative skills (this is probably especially true in the pop/rap/dance scene).

Creativity and business rarely go hand in hand and I know *many* artists/creative people who simply suck at doing business because they don't care or don't feel comfortable about it.

The amount of artists I've seen who will simply prefer to lose money to having to deal with businesspeople is astounding!

Yea i can see your point and why some people would not want to deal with certain aspects i guess it comes down to different folks different strokes .

 

[sparkyness]

Michael Brauer has a good take on the producer management situation. Details can be found in the Q&A section on his site or the moderated forum section on Gearslutz.