Question about Joey's guitar editing!

[HaydenLM1]

Ive noticed in some of his stuff that the guitar is playing tremolo picking and the kick is hitting at the exact same time! It sounds a bit robotic in a good way (?) but also very natural, hard to explain! I hope you know what I mean!

The best example that I can find now is The final episode (Asking Alexandria) the breakdown at the beginning



How do you quantize the guitar to the drums that well without missing bits out of the guitar ?

Please help!

 

[Beneath_the_Bliss]

can't really suggest anything rather than tight playing

 

[HaydenLM1]

The best example of this was what joey posted long time ago ..
but he deleted the link http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/joey-sturgis/708162-i-get-bored-make-stupid-shit.html
the guitar was clearly edited!

 

[Beneath_the_Bliss]

if you're looking for that type of production, you're going to have to edit

 

[HaydenLM1]

but how do i edit it this way ? thats what i dont get..

 

[HostileEx]

Depends on what program you're using. In PT, you can switch from "Waveform" to "Warp" and just warp the track where needed.

 

[K Odell]

Nice Killswitch breakdown

 

[JeffEstrada]

If your on reaper I made a slip editing tutorial a while back. Even though this tutorial was actually meant for drums but it's the same exact thing for guitar.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a--5QFlylGg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a--5QFlylGg[/ame]

 

[HaydenLM1]

Im using Cubase 5 at the moment

 

[K Odell]

You can edit like that in Cubase also. Its just different key commands.

 

[xANDREWLIFERx]

Maybe this can be used as well with some fine tuning.

 

[Bay Studio]

its fairly simple: 1. tight playing. and 2. switch to cut-mode and then choose 1/32 or 1/64 for the grid, then you can edit it to perfection and get really into the waveforms. Thats the answer to your question.

 

[Josh Bodnar]

Well, I've been recording metal for a little while and on projects that require that inhumanly precise guitar playing, I quantize the guitar DI track before re-amping them. If needed, when the guitar is playing the fast tremolo picking or anything like breakdowns where there are not too many note changes, I even copy and paste a good/perfect transient and place them on the grid accordingly. Its very time consuming, but it will get the results you want in your production. Hope this helps!

 

[droppedrecords]

Gosh!

Joey has explained this.

He gave this one away a while ago. You record the guitars at half tempo. Like half the speed as tight as you can. Then you chop the fucker up so every note is cut in half. Delete every second section you have divided up. Drag all your little clips together, xfade themall to get rid of shitty pops n clicks and you have impossibly tight guitars that dont sound fake cause nothing is actually sped up. You're just chopping out all the ugly note transitions.

 

[Ericlingus]

could you post a tutorial on that? Or explain more in detail. You're saying you record the riff at half the tempo it's supposed to be then cut each hit(note) in half? how do you cut it in half? do you do it by eye?

 

[Goodfellas453]

Gosh!

Joey has explained this.

He gave this one away a while ago. You record the guitars at half tempo. Like half the speed as tight as you can. Then you chop the fucker up so every note is cut in half. Delete every second section you have divided up. Drag all your little clips together, xfade themall to get rid of shitty pops n clicks and you have impossibly tight guitars that dont sound fake cause nothing is actually sped up. You're just chopping out all the ugly note transitions.

He also stated he doesnt do that shit anymore, its gotta be tight playing and tight editing, if the guitarist cant do it in real time, he needs practice!