i was asking myself if there are some records outhere which where produced using this or maybe another plug. i mean, the sound is fantastic today, so why not?
Revalver, impulses etc... on records?
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Rex Rocker
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I've heard Amp Farm was involved in one of the A Perfect Circle Records, not sure of the details, tho.
Again, vague stuff, but I remember hearing there was also POD XT Metal Shop pack used in something Opeth.
Again, vague stuff, but I remember hearing there was also POD XT Metal Shop pack used in something Opeth.
Let it burn...
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TheWinterSnow
Den Mørke Natt
if bands aren;t doing it now, they will be soon, or at least reamping. The versatility of being able to tweak your guitar tracks and move them as needed is a big tool for the studio. The down side of reamping is that you can only have that many tracks that you have actaul guitar amps, but with say revalver and other vst's you can uses as many as your computer can handle, for the same price as one. So its only a matter of time before plug-in programs like revalver, 11, Amp farm will be the standard in the studio...and live.
Uhh, I don't follow...reamping has, if anything, less limits, because it doesn't use any CPU power - true, you need to actually have access to all the amps you wanna reamp through, but for anyone with a decent budget that shouldn't be too difficult, and amp sims still exemplify "jacks of all trades, masters of none" IMO. Amp sims make life easier, but I don't ever see them becoming the standard.
There will always be a market for actual amps, which we can all agree on (if you don't, you're dumb)...but it's not crazy to think that ampsims will eventually get to the point where they sound so close it's not even funny. To the point where it could be just as common to hear ReValver MKIX on a commercial release as it is to hear a 5150.
That said, I'll always own an actual amp, for many reasons, one being recording. Most pros will most likely always choose a real amp + cab + mic combination over any simulation any day of the week simply because they have the nice gear and experience so getting the sounds they want isn't really a problem. But I can see some guys venturing into that realm once it gets closer to being passable.
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That said, I'll always own an actual amp, for many reasons, one being recording. Most pros will most likely always choose a real amp + cab + mic combination over any simulation any day of the week simply because they have the nice gear and experience so getting the sounds they want isn't really a problem. But I can see some guys venturing into that realm once it gets closer to being passable.
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TheWinterSnow
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i just mean when you say have 6 guitar tracks or whatnot, with some fancy over dub kind of stuff, unless you have say 6 5150's, or 6 Engl savages (or SE's if you want to be expensive) your not going to be able to tweak each tracks tone, you would have to mix down each guitar and run the next, which defeats the whole reason to reamp.
if you ran effects or say rigs, you would have to have that many cabinets, mics, processors. It would get expensive fast. then you also have to think of the volume issue. if you reamp you still have to crank out from the amp and cab. so unless you had a commercial recording studio, that kind for volume isn't possible unless you want to be friends with cops.
Still with plu-ins you have an unlimited number of amps (given by your CPU) that you can use, where in RL, you need to physically have that amp, that cab a mic, a mic pre and any other fx needed.
but lets not get into the whole CPU thing, i am running a 2.0 GHz dual core with 2 GB of ram and can easily run 6 or 7 instances of revalver as well as impulses, on top of all the other audio tracks, usually up to 40 with all my orchestra and still be good at 80%.
still it will be another 10 or 15 years before sims can even compete with the real thing. Realistically its a lot easier, cheaper, space efficient and tweakable to use amp sims. if you want to complain on say the CPU issue, if you pay 100+ on a CPU, unless you use a resource hungry DAW, you won;t have much of an issue until your running 8+ instances of an amp sim.
Erkan
mr-walker.bandcamp
Fuck I regret buying an AMD X2 CPU for my studio purposes... I can only run like 4 Revalvers at 2 ms latency and then its crackle time. Got an Intel Dual Core here at home, maybe I should switch places with this one and the one in the rehearsal place... =)
Erkan
mr-walker.bandcamp
Ever? Just like when people said the internet was only gonna be small fry and quickly forgotten?
I wouldn't dare claiming that amp sims will never be somewhat of a standard, given the fact how the processing power of computers is rising exponentially over time, it's just a matter of time until some company finally releases a program that is the shit.
I like how Revalver tries to model each component in a physically correct way to achieve the tones you get from Revalver, and a little more tweaking in that department would probably be what is required for Revalver to be fully used throughout productions. Because right now, what I feel Revalver can't do is to model the warmth of the bottom and the "smooshy" smooth top high frequencies that you can get with some real amps (not all though, some real analog amps sound fucking more harsh and digital than Revalver). Revalver probably has the mids modelled pretty ok, it's the two important "extreme" sides of the frequency spectrum left.
Although my testings are based on passive pick ups, I know an EMG-81 changes a whole lot of the result from Revalver so.... I should buy one and then try again!
Ermz
¯\(°_o)/¯
Digital simulation is still a way off from replacing the real thing. Having said that, it can certainly be used on its own merits. It's worth considering though that for many of our needs, it simply doesn't cut it. It can't replace tube rhythm guitars as a dominant driving force in a mix, as it simply doesn't have the warmth, strength, fullness, texture and non-linearity of tube tone at the moment.
Impulses themselves are also a little way off. We need to adopt a different technology rather than IRs, as they don't account for all the tone in a cab, hence why all impulse response packs currently suck (I've got hundreds of IRs, tried em all, all of em suck compared to mic'ing a cab).
Impulses themselves are also a little way off. We need to adopt a different technology rather than IRs, as they don't account for all the tone in a cab, hence why all impulse response packs currently suck (I've got hundreds of IRs, tried em all, all of em suck compared to mic'ing a cab).
wishtheend
clip the apex
APC was primarily a custom amp based off a Marshall with TC Electronic effects. I don't think Billy has every used straight software - although he has jumped over to AxeFX as of late.
