RIP Syd Barrett.

[evil_pete]

RIP Syd
As a tribute I plan to lock my girlfriend in a closet for 3 days with a box of crackers.

Bwahahaha!!!!



Was between discs of the Pulse DVD set when I found out about Syd. In the extras it's got PF being inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall Of Fame. Dave Gilmour says "we've got to get two more of these (statues)...one for Roger and one for Syd".

 

[metalkingdom]

That's absolutely absurd. It's nothing like saying Burton did the same for Metallica. All three of those albums are based VERY heavily on what happened when Syd was in the band. Without that experience, the lyrical themes of the albums would not even be close to the same, and thus, the entire atmosphere of them would have been different. It's not meant to take away from Gilmour's or Waters' musical abilities, but Syd has always been Pink Floyd's biggest influence. I doubt either Waters or Gilmour would deny that.

You're missing my point. I know that Barrett was a huge influence on the other guys and that they had a lot of respect for him. I'll even say that he probably was a musical genius, but it's not like everyone in the band were "hired guns" that were there just to play his songs. I think that Floyd's later albums were based, as you say, "VERY heavily" not on what happened when Syd was in the band, but when he was on his way out of the band. Pink Floyd evolved into something much larger than the original concept after Syd left. Sure, he was the main musical influence, but he didn't write any of those songs that made them famous. Every band that ever was, and will be, will always have influences - some stronger than others. I can guarantee you that the great, classic Pink Floyd songs that we all know and love wouldn't even exist if Barrett had stayed - and I mean that on more levels than just one. A huge equation to Floyd's success are due to the lyrics of the songs (which are largely based on the tragic story of Syd's mental collapse) which Roger Waters wrote without the aid of Syd Barrett. I'd say that Barrett's mental state was more of an indirect influence as far as that goes. Also, Pink Floyd recorded some of the best sounding albums ever made. The awesome production was/is very integral to the band's success and legacy. How about David Gilmour's unforgettable leads and guitar work in general? It also had little, if nothing, to do with Barrett's influence - and it was a huge part of the Floyd sound. I remember when Syd Barrett's "new" album came out back in the late '80's. It was okay, but it kinda sounded like a generic Pink Floyd ripoff. I don't know about you (especially since you think that Syd Barrett album is better than the 70's stuff), but I'm glad that things happened the way that they did. He definitely got the ball rolling though, and for that I'm eternally grateful.

It sucks that the guy went nuts and all, but look at the trade-off - one guy losing his mind for the musical power that has been enjoyed and loved by millions and millions of people. Kind of reminds me of this other story, so with that I'll say R.I.P. Syd Barrett.

 

[FretsAflame]

RIP Syd!

I would not label Barrett, Waters, or Gilmore as being better than one another. They all brought their own talent and contributed equally, in their own individual way, to the experience that is: Pink Floyd.
Why argue about who is better? Can anyone honestly name one song by Pink Floyd that is lacking in talent, or even mildly a bad tune? If you cant, and I dont imagine you can; then dont compare 3 equal (but different) musical genuises. Especially in a tribute to the dead thread!

Yoooo, care to be locked in a closet with a box of Ritz crackers? Saltine if you prefer. It's quite spacious, a good 8 x 4, no windows but there is a crack in the door that you can peer through from time to time.

 

[NinjaKitten]

Yoooo, care to be locked in a closet with a box of Ritz crackers? Saltine if you prefer. It's quite spacious, a good 8 x 4, no windows but there is a crack in the door that you can peer through from time to time.

eat me

 

[Super Mahrio]

RIP!

 

[FretsAflame]

eat me

Eh? It was a joke lass.

suppose I should have read the posts - it seems there's a bit of an argument going on in this thread.

 

[NinjaKitten]

haha its ok, I wasnt serious either. About the eat me thing that is. I was going to add a to it, but it didnt seem as clever that way.

 

[metalkingdom]

suppose I should have read the posts - it seems there's a bit of an argument going on in this thread.

Not an argument!!! Lively debate would be more fitting.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

eat me

Hot.

 

[FretsAflame]

haha its ok, I wasnt serious either. About the eat me thing that is. I was going to add a to it, but it didnt seem as clever that way.

Hahaha good - I decided to play it safe and assume you weren't joking.

I mean, I didn't envision it going well if my response was something like "with pleasure! :lol" and it turned out you weren't joking hahahaha

 

[PlatypusJesus]

You're missing my point. I know that Barrett was a huge influence on the other guys and that they had a lot of respect for him. I'll even say that he probably was a musical genius, but it's not like everyone in the band were "hired guns" that were there just to play his songs. I think that Floyd's later albums were based, as you say, "VERY heavily" not on what happened when Syd was in the band, but when he was on his way out of the band. Pink Floyd evolved into something much larger than the original concept after Syd left. Sure, he was the main musical influence, but he didn't write any of those songs that made them famous. Every band that ever was, and will be, will always have influences - some stronger than others. I can guarantee you that the great, classic Pink Floyd songs that we all know and love wouldn't even exist if Barrett had stayed - and I mean that on more levels than just one. A huge equation to Floyd's success are due to the lyrics of the songs (which are largely based on the tragic story of Syd's mental collapse) which Roger Waters wrote without the aid of Syd Barrett. I'd say that Barrett's mental state was more of an indirect influence as far as that goes. Also, Pink Floyd recorded some of the best sounding albums ever made. The awesome production was/is very integral to the band's success and legacy. How about David Gilmour's unforgettable leads and guitar work in general? It also had little, if nothing, to do with Barrett's influence - and it was a huge part of the Floyd sound. I remember when Syd Barrett's "new" album came out back in the late '80's. It was okay, but it kinda sounded like a generic Pink Floyd ripoff. I don't know about you (especially since you think that Syd Barrett album is better than the 70's stuff), but I'm glad that things happened the way that they did. He definitely got the ball rolling though, and for that I'm eternally grateful.

It sucks that the guy went nuts and all, but look at the trade-off - one guy losing his mind for the musical power that has been enjoyed and loved by millions and millions of people. Kind of reminds me of this other story, so with that I'll say R.I.P. Syd Barrett.

Funny, you said a lot that I was trying to say, except that I still believe one of Floyd's best albums, though not the best, is Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and I'd have to say that with the team of Gilmour, Waters, and Barrett, everything could have been even greater, though I doubt that they would have received the same acclaim that they did. But Syd lost his mind, his passion, and pretty much everything else, and we have ended up with the Pink Floyd that we have now, which is far different than the Pink Floyd we would have had with Barrett. While I don't care much for The Wall, I would be very upset if I didn't have Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and Meddle. I need those albums, and if Syd stayed in Floyd, I wouldn't have them. However, if Syd never was in Floyd at all, they wouldn't be around either. That was my entire point.

 

[neal]

listened to Dark Side... and Wish You Were Here this evening

 

[lizard]

listened to Wish you Were Here last night.

I think Syd was the obvious initial spark, for sure...and he was a unique talent. But I'm not sure he would have prospered far beyond the sixties, his songwriting was unique but quite fey and childlike. Could he have evolved? I guess we'll never know. Getting Gilmour to replace him, + Waters becoming a key songwriter were what took them to massive status, Gilmour bringing the guitar firepower necessary to go beyond psychedelia. Of course, then Waters became a megalomaniac and began making the band a platform for his tirades, and that sucked too (The Final Cut); the flipside being that the band without waters being kinda meh.

Anyway....Well I wish....well I wish you were here....we're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl.......................

 

[derek]

I stop listening to Floyd after Piper. For me, Syd was Floyd and while I love Dark Side of the Moon, it never manages to incite the same love I have for Piper.

I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like...

 

[metalkingdom]

Funny, you said a lot that I was trying to say, except that I still believe one of Floyd's best albums, though not the best, is Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and I'd have to say that with the team of Gilmour, Waters, and Barrett, everything could have been even greater, though I doubt that they would have received the same acclaim that they did. But Syd lost his mind, his passion, and pretty much everything else, and we have ended up with the Pink Floyd that we have now, which is far different than the Pink Floyd we would have had with Barrett. While I don't care much for The Wall, I would be very upset if I didn't have Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and Meddle. I need those albums, and if Syd stayed in Floyd, I wouldn't have them. However, if Syd never was in Floyd at all, they wouldn't be around either. That was my entire point.

 

[lizard]

I think I'm having an acid flashback right this minute.

edit: http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/11/cls-late-nite-music-club-with-syd-barrett/
check it out