Ron!

[guitarist_kkv2]

Hey man will you be playing here in Sa with Blotted Science or are you just going to release a cd? Also, are you ever gonna play and of your songs for a show man? I would realy love to hear you play your stuff live. And being that your from San Antonio, would think you would play shows? Also do you have any shirts youve made for your solo cds or Spastic Ink? you rule man!! saw you at the necrophagist show a while back.

 

[guitarist_kkv2]

sorry just want this to get answered, i know your a busy man.

 

[Zyquix]

I'd love to have some Jarzombek shirts- whether it's watchtower, Spaz, Blotted, or whatever (except I don't want to wear a shirt with Bambi on the front, har). I would wear one for the solo cds, but sadly, I still don't even have either of them (of the cds I mean).

 

[ronjarz]

Alex (Webster) and I have been talking about gigging with Blotted Science since day one, but right now, we're just getting the material recorded. I'm thinking that once the CD is done and released, we'll play a few festivals, and could maybe do a quick tour (probably several/dozen shows just before/after playing a festival).

By the way, Derek Roddy is no longer working with us. The new guy is Charlie Zeleny from Behold The Arctopus. For those of you who haven't heard BTA or Charlie's playing, think Spastic Ink on speed.

Ron

 

[Zyquix]

..and for those of you who haven't heard this magnificent band, you deserve a pitchfork to the temple.

That's fuckin awesome.

 

[jimbobhickville]

wow, drummer problems again Ron? Do you just write shit that's too hard for most of them or are drummers just notoriously flakey? Or do you just have bad luck? Charlie's a cool guy from what I can tell, and from what I've heard very professional, so I imagine it'll work out with him.

So, now there can be a Behold... the Arctopus/Blotted Science/Dysrhythmia tour. I'd definitely come out for that (hell I did and Yakuza was the third band, and while I like them, they don't hold a candle to anything Ron's on).

 

[Zyquix]

Did Roddy at least get some tracks recorded? So at least Charlie wouldn't have to learn all of them from the beginning?

 

[guitarist_kkv2]

wow, drummer problems again Ron? Do you just write shit that's too hard for most of them or are drummers just notoriously flakey? Or do you just have bad luck? Charlie's a cool guy from what I can tell, and from what I've heard very professional, so I imagine it'll work out with him.

So, now there can be a Behold... the Arctopus/Blotted Science/Dysrhythmia tour. I'd definitely come out for that (hell I did and Yakuza was the third band, and while I like them, they don't hold a candle to anything Ron's on).

I doubt it, Derek Roddy is an amazing drummer.

 

[Vacant_Planets]

Derek is a great drummer, but he seems to be getting burnt out on the scene lately, I can't really say though. I just remember Ron Vento of Aurora Borealis talking about it.

 

[Alucard7321]

No offence Ron, i'm a drummer and i have to say Derek Roddy is a terrible drummer for the music your playing.

I watched MANY possibly ALL of his videos and i still say hes no different from Necrophagist or Spawn of Possession's drummer which are all terribly average drummers, relying more on speed than actual groove or dynamic range.

Your bro, Bobby, however is amazing. Why? He can groove most beats with the weirdest of phrasings and has a wide knowledge and technical control over his dynamics(but you know all of this already of course! ).

Also another cool drummer is Matt Racovalies(sp?) from the Austrailian band Alarum, and of course Virgil Donati etc guys in that range(Dave Weckl etc).

Anyhow, an opinion of course. Good luck anyhow Ron!

EDIT: oops! Forgot Dennis Chambers!

 

[Nebbiez]

No offence Ron, i'm a drummer and i have to say Derek Roddy is a terrible drummer for the music your playing.

I watched MANY possibly ALL of his videos and i still say hes no different from Necrophagist or Spawn of Possession's drummer which are all terribly average drummers, relying more on speed than actual groove or dynamic range.

I have to disagree with you there. What you have to realise is that it's all about what genre of music the drummer is playing in. Generally in music, drumming is unfortunately fairly background and is only used to maintain rhythm throughout the songs. I dislike this approach to drumming, as I believe the drummer is just as important as any other member of the band and should have their own creative input expressed in the music. Derek Roddy is a fantastic drummer, as are many death metal drummers. But because of the style they play (32nd note double pedal, blastbeats, etc.) it sounds very unoriginal and doesn't make them stand out of the crowd. Whereas a lot of the more progressive bands like Spastic Ink, Behold...The Arctopus, Dysrhythmia, Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment, Spiral Architect, etc. allow the drummer to be a more up-front member of the band and let loose with everything they've got.

I do however agree that Bobby is possibly the best drummer I have ever heard. I know some phenominal drummers who couldn't play most Spastic Ink stuff if they tried. His technique and time keeping is incredible.

 

[Alucard7321]

I have to disagree with you there. What you have to realise is that it's all about what genre of music the drummer is playing in. Generally in music, drumming is unfortunately fairly background and is only used to maintain rhythm throughout the songs. I dislike this approach to drumming, as I believe the drummer is just as important as any other member of the band and should have their own creative input expressed in the music. Derek Roddy is a fantastic drummer, as are many death metal drummers. But because of the style they play (32nd note double pedal, blastbeats, etc.) it sounds very unoriginal and doesn't make them stand out of the crowd. Whereas a lot of the more progressive bands like Spastic Ink, Behold...The Arctopus, Dysrhythmia, Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment, Spiral Architect, etc. allow the drummer to be a more up-front member of the band and let loose with everything they've got.

I do however agree that Bobby is possibly the best drummer I have ever heard. I know some phenominal drummers who couldn't play most Spastic Ink stuff if they tried. His technique and time keeping is incredible.

Still a poor choice of drummer for Spastic Ink. Also i dont agree on your choices of band examples.

Behold...The Arctopus - has notoriously boring drum parts, its not even that difficult compared to of course the bass and guitar parts...so that sa bit of an irony within the context of its music

Spiral Architect - Most of the drum parts sound a mess, they dont groove or just sounds innappropiately done (yet again letting down the guitar or bass parts...also the vocals dont help that band either )

Underrated Drummers: Gruvis Malt' drummer and Ephel Duath's Old drummer.

And mainly i thought this way about Derek Roddy because i just thought it was an irony that Ron was bringing in someone who was gonna specialise in a certain style that wouldn't fit Ron's music or even past music, though i'm sure he'll get someone who will just be amazing...though i think he should stick with his brother, i would if he was my bro.

 

[nicosanchez]

Still a poor choice of drummer for Spastic Ink. Also i dont agree on your choices of band examples.

I thought we were discussing about Blotted Science, not Spastic Ink.

 

[Zyquix]

Speaking of underrated drummers, I happen to be listening to Canvas Solaris right now... well, Hunter Ginn isn't really underrated, it's just that the band is still relatively obscure..

 

[ronjarz]

Derek is a killer drummer. Just because you have never heard or seen the guy play outside of Hate Eternal recordings and videos, doesn't mean he can't. Just as I get labeled a "technical guitarist" and writer means that I have lost out on lots of gigs. And then I sometimes get this "shredder" label, which I have never figured out.

I do agree with you that it's so hard to judge a drummer by listening to death metal recordings. I can't. I think that's why Derek is leaning toward getting away from death metal for a while. He's proven himself in that field and wants to do different things, which he can do VERY well.

Also, you need to go to a Behold the Arctopus gig to make a call on Charlie Zeleny. I saw the guy with Behold a few months ago and the guy totally kicked my ass. The good ole cliche "had to pick my jaw off the floor" applies here.

As for Bobby being a part of Blotted Science? Remember, this gig heavily involves Alex Webster. When was the last time you heard big bro play a blastbeat? If you are stating that Bobby is best for Spastic Ink, then of course you are totally correct.

Ron

 

[the_satanic_rabbit]

^^^

Exactamundo.

From everything Ron has told us, this is meant to be a project with "the death metal guys." and therefore having a more death metal flavor to it. So you need to have a drummer who blasts away but can also handle the prog stuff.

I'd really like to hear Pete Sandoval do something other than Morbid Angel and without all those damn triggers.

Also, I'm really digging the Lambardo return to Slayer. Even though their stuff is straightforward he has a bit of a jazzy flavor to his drumming that makes things a lot more interesting.

I checked out some Arctopus samples and it was pretty wicked! Very amped to hear the final result!

 

[jimbobhickville]

True, I've never heard Bobby play a blastbeat. However, I very much doubt that he'd have trouble doing so. I mean, he hasn't had much of a hard time playing for Demons & Wizards or Iced Earth, and they don't do any weird timing or interesting drumming bits Sorry, I hate blastbeats, so I'm probably overly negative on them.

 

[the_satanic_rabbit]

True, I've never heard Bobby play a blastbeat. However, I very much doubt that he'd have trouble doing so. I mean, he hasn't had much of a hard time playing for Demons & Wizards or Iced Earth, and they don't do any weird timing or interesting drumming bits Sorry, I hate blastbeats, so I'm probably overly negative on them.

Well, it's not wether or not he can play a blast beat. I mean, come on, we all know he can. But the point is to have a more death metal flavor to it. So that's going to be brought out better by someone who is more familiar with the genre.

 

[Nebbiez]

I bet Pete Sandoval (Morbid Angel), Dariusz Brzozowski (Vader), Inferno (Behemoth) and Trym (Zyklon/Emperor) would all be kick ass for a project like this. There are a lot of death metal drummers who just learn how to play blastbeats and double pedal at 200bpm (which is quite a feat in its own right), but these guys (and I'm sure many others, but these are the ones that stand out for me personally) tend to include more of a jazzy influence to their style, or just simply play in ways that I rarely hear other death metal drummers play. I mean sure you've got your big name guys like Gene Hoglan, Richard Christy and Sean Reinert - but Death was never a blastbeat type of death metal band, and those were the bands I was thinking more along the lines of.

 

[the_satanic_rabbit]

..and for those of you who haven't heard this magnificent band, you deserve a pitchfork to the temple.

That's fuckin awesome.

I have 2 discs on order and am listening to exo right now. Holy crap!



It sounds like someone took all my influences and mashed em together and said, "if you don't like it, tough shit, there it is."