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[Krigloch the Furious]

wow, you're cool

its time for you to get off the internet and watch Predator.

 

[Tee]

sarcasm, my dear Tee.

shit. I was hoping to get a new comerade.

 

[derek]

and what does a philosopher give to modern society? (serious question, im not just being a dick)

It's an arguable point.

Philosophy has influenced nearly all of history. The most obvious example is political philosophy. From Socrates, to Plato and Aristotle and more recently Thomas Hobbes, John Locke and Rousseau - the ideas of how to live and organise life inside a political state have been debated over and over. Questions like:

How much power should the state have over an individual?
Is it OK to break immoral laws?
Is democracy really the fairest and best system for political organisation?

The ideas of Plato and Aristotle cultivated democracy in the Greek city states of the last part of the 1st millenia A.D. Their (particularly Aristotle's) views on how history changes and the forming of a constitution were hugely influential in the organisation and running of the Roman Empire, which itself has permeated every aspect of modern life. Moreover, Plato and Aristotle were hugely influential in the Christian church (cf...Tertullian 2nd cen.AD and St. Aquinas 12th. cen.AD -ISH) and while the church bastardised their ideas, the organisation of every political state for nearly a millenia was based upon these ideas. Religion changed the shape of the world, and philosophy changed the shape of religion.

More recently, Hobbes had a philosophical relationship with the english civil war and Locke's theory of government is pretty much how western democracies are run.

Less tangible pursuits like epistimology and metaphysics may seem uninteresting to most folks, but they do ask fundamental questions about our existence and its nature. Which, in all fairness, nearly every smart person has asked themselves at one point or another.

If I guaged the tone of your post correctly, then I agree with the superficial analysis that much philosophy and many philosophers are overpaid lazy asses who argue over nonsensical points and idiotic topics. BUT areas of study do exist where philosophical thought is hugely beneficial.

 

[Reminiscence]

No worries man, except it's Derek. )

I'm not for equality, because it's throwing a blanket over a mountain and trying to smooth it out. I'm with Aristotle: People should be treated in relation to how much they give society.

What if society sucks?

 

[derek]

What if society sucks?

Sorta irrelevant. It's an ideal theory, It would be a great way of organization, but it's unlikely.

 

[HalcyonHullaballo]

No worries man, except it's Derek. )

I'm not for equality, because it's throwing a blanket over a mountain and trying to smooth it out. I'm with Aristotle: People should be treated in relation to how much they give society.

true!!that would be ideal!!I believe that liberalism was meant to be something like that but obviously someone gave ass again...