should i go to this?

should i go?

  • hell no

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • fuck yea

    Votes: 4 80.0%

  • Total voters
    5
Hey Preppy, I am going, if you decide to go and if you want, we can meet up for coffee before hand or something. I am usually involved in this stuff, and in all liklihood I wont have anyone to go with because all my friends are war mongering death metalheads, or just flat out don't care. PM me, email, or whatever me, if you are up to it. If not, then, cool beans. :)

-Elliot
 
i figured it out: goatschool and i will both carry flip flops and swat people with them.

i'm not sure if i am definitely going actually. i just realized my dad may be having surgery that weekend. i will have to talk to him.
 
well well well... looks like the police are basically trying to prevent protests entirely now! WAY TO GO GUYS!

SUPPORT YOUR RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN LAWFUL POLITICAL AND FIRST AMENDMENT

ACTIVITY -- ATTEND AN IMPORTANT COURT HEARING ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 29th AT

3:00 PM



THE NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED A FEDERAL JUDGE TO VIRTUALLY

ELIMINATE COURT-ORDERED PROTECTIONS FOR CITIZENS AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO

ENGAGE IN LAWFUL POLITICAL ACITVITY IN NEW YORK CITY. THE COURT ORDER

PREVENTS THE POLICE FROM SPYING ON FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITIES UNLESS A

TARGETED PERSON OR GROUP ENGAGES IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.



ORAL ARGUMENTS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S MOTION IN THE CASE, "HANDSCHU v.

SPECIAL SERVICES DIVISION," WILL BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 29th AT 3:00

PM.



Courtroom 17-C

United States District Court

Southern District of New York

500 Pearl Street (east of Foley Square)

New York, NY

(4, 5 & 6 Train to Brooklyn Bridge;

J, M, Z, A, C and E to Chambers St.)





Citing the events of September 11, 2001, David Cohen, Deputy Police Commissioner for Intelligence and a 35-year veteran of the CIA, has told the

court in the Police Department's motion papers that continuing to require a

"criminal predicate" to conduct political investigations hampers

intelligence collection on potential terrorists.



The "Handschu" case was filed in 1971 shortly after it came to light that

police had for decades spied on lawful activities of social and racial

justice advocates. A front-page article by Chisun Lee in the December 18th

Village Voice presents a history of the "Handschu" decree, and what is at

stake for New Yorkers. Click here to read the article:





http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0251/lee.php





The January 29th hearing is open to the public. Members of the Class (which

includes all individuals and groups that engage in lawful First Amendment

activities in New York City) are welcome to attend. Arguments will last one

to two hours. SEATING IN THE COURTROOM IS LIMITED AND IS ON A FIRST COME -

FIRST SERVED BASIS. The papers the judge will be considering can be read in

the court's public records room during business hours. The public records

room is on the second floor of the U.S. Courthouse, 500 Pearl Street, New

York, NY. Requisition the file in the case called "Handschu v. Special

Services Division", Docket No. 71 Civ 2203 (CSH). Begin with the Police

Department's Motion filed September 25, 2002. Copies of any portion of the

filed materials can be made for 25 cents per page. A vending machine in the

public records room sells copy cards for $20, or you can bring quarters.



The "Handschu" court order can be found on-line and in law libraries under

the legal citation "Handschu v. Special Services Division," 605 F. Supp.

1384. The text of the "Handschu" decree begins on page 1417.



The Court defined the Class as:



"All individuals resident in the City of New York, and all

other persons who are physically present in the City of New

York, and all organizations located or operating in the City

of New York, who engage in or have engaged in lawful political,

religious, educational or social activities and who, as a

result of these activities, have been, are now or hereafter

may be subjected to or threatened by infiltration, physical

and verbal coercion, photographic, electronic and physical

surveillance, provocation of violence, recruitment to act as

police informers and dossier collection and dissemination by

defendants [the NY Police Department] and their agents."
 
i loved how during the Republican National Convention in Philly (2000), we were confined to a small park area very far from the actual convention sites if we wanted to protest "lawfully". they did the same thing when i went out to State College, PA with a busload of welfare mothers to protest the governor's meeting; they gave us a parking lot and we never saw a governor!

lame.
 
well, my boss and i are going to trail along to the courthouse tomorrow to hear these aforementioned arguments etc.

my boss is a pretty insanely brilliant lawyer. i hope she has some insight into this disaster.