Side chaining is the shit.

[kev]

Ah i think i see, so for instance- would a valid application of this be to duck the rhythm guitars slightly for when a guitar solo kicks in? I've always been using the dreaded read/write functions for this type of thing so far.

 

[BattleTits]

Ah i think i see, so for instance- would a valid application of this be to duck the rhythm guitars slightly for when a guitar solo kicks in? I've always been using the dreaded read/write functions for this type of thing so far.

I would never do that...Treat a solo like a vocal..automate it.

 

[kev]

I would never do that...Treat a solo like a vocal..automate it.

Aye, have heard of such things happening before though. But thats aside from the point

 

[smy1]

I would never do that...Treat a solo like a vocal..automate it.

I would disagree here: especially when you are compressing/limiting hard on your 2bus, ducking the rhythm guitars a bit can make your solo stand out, while at the same time you retain overall level of the track.

I'd probably just automate the rhythm guitar though, as I love automation and don't think it's too much of a hassle to use ...

 

[Ermz]

I'd have to agree. What I tend to do is cut up the rhythm guitars for the solo section and then just turn the gain down on that 'block' of audio. Saves me automating anything, and the volume drop is fully customizable. It works great during some sections. There are some solos that just sound better when they're allowed to breathe a bit... Andy has seemingly done this on a few mixes.

 

[cobhc]

I'd have to agree. What I tend to do is cut up the rhythm guitars for the solo section and then just turn the gain down on that 'block' of audio. Saves me automating anything, and the volume drop is fully customizable. It works great during some sections. There are some solos that just sound better when they're allowed to breathe a bit... Andy has seemingly done this on a few mixes.

I remember him saying before he brings the rhythm guitars down like 1-2db during leads to make the leads stand out more.

 

[Ermz]

It certainly beats fighting with your limiters to get the leads through the mix!

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

This thread has turned kickass.

Any other uses for sidechaining?

 

[Deaf Ear]

He side chained it with a lo freq sine wave, this of course sounds like shit when done in metal (anyone down for some mud in there kick).

No, but it can do wonders for a dull snare to do the exact same thing with some filtered pink noise.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

No, but it can do wonders for a dull snare to do the exact same thing with some filtered pink noise.

Hmm sounds interesting. So a little pink noise in the snare sounds good?

 

[Deaf Ear]

Well you can filter out the spectrum that you don't want in there. You can give a dull snare the appearance of having a nice snare wire sound if you do it right. Liven it up a bit. Here's a real quick example I threw together for you of what I'm talking about. I've included the "shaped" noise, the snare, and then combined them.

http://www.sneapforum.celtiaproductions.co.uk/DeafEar/Snare.wav
http://www.sneapforum.celtiaproductions.co.uk/DeafEar/Noise.wav
http://www.sneapforum.celtiaproductions.co.uk/DeafEar/Combined.wav

 

[greyskull]

that my friend is a cunning plan.
a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Well you can filter out the spectrum that you don't want in there. You can give a dull snare the appearance of having a nice snare wire sound if you do it right. Liven it up a bit. Here's a real quick example I threw together for you of what I'm talking about. I've included the "shaped" noise, the snare, and then combined them.

http://www.sneapforum.celtiaproductions.co.uk/DeafEar/Snare.wav
http://www.sneapforum.celtiaproductions.co.uk/DeafEar/Noise.wav
http://www.sneapforum.celtiaproductions.co.uk/DeafEar/Combined.wav

That sounds cool to my ears. Hmmm...

Nice ideas guys.