Snuff Movies..

[rotten_doll]

ohh well...
you're all right!
i'm everything that you think that i'm.
and even worst than that...

this is all.

 

[Thanatos]

owned

(not by me though)

 

[dance_with_death]

I love these conversations on here, because os many people into metal are kids with no real understanding of anything and certainly no experience in 'what the world is like'. I watched that stuff when I was a kid all interested in death, not really feeling anything about the human loss or suffering. Its called ignorance, and it is safe to use the word retarded if you consider yoruself an adult, because you should be in touch with basic human feeling. People who have no sense of empathy, have no ability to place themselves in the stead of another, belong in the looney bin, where they can't hurt normal people. Like in that movie Sling Blade. Mm-Hm.

just because someone likes that stuff does not mean that they dont have experience of what the world is like, i feel no sypathy for death unless it was someone i cared about, which is not many people because i hate people, thats how i have always been and always will be. i remember peopel telling me i would go up to randomn people when i was little and tell them they suck because they are human and they deserve to die.maybe i was raised wrong or picked it up off of tv or something..who knows....i just dont have sympathy for many people, and maybe i do belong in a looney bin, i dont want sense of empathy because i dont care, and i dont want to care, the human race is overated and we all suck. ive been in the looney bin before, maybe ill end up there again, i just lied myself out of that place, i was only in there for about a year. but oh well

 

[Stoner Sioux]

I've seen those traces of Death videos about 10 years ago, cuz my then boyfriend liked them. It was the most horrible shit, I spent most of the movie with my head burried in his back cuz I couldn't stand it, and the parts I saw really botherd me to the point that I had trouble sleeping for the next couple weeks.

 

[Wandrail]

just because someone likes that stuff does not mean that they dont have experience of what the world is like, i feel no sypathy for death unless it was someone i cared about, which is not many people because i hate people, thats how i have always been and always will be. i remember peopel telling me i would go up to randomn people when i was little and tell them they suck because they are human and they deserve to die.maybe i was raised wrong or picked it up off of tv or something..who knows....i just dont have sympathy for many people, and maybe i do belong in a looney bin, i dont want sense of empathy because i dont care, and i dont want to care, the human race is overated and we all suck. ive been in the looney bin before, maybe ill end up there again, i just lied myself out of that place, i was only in there for about a year. but oh well

Say no more squire, say no more. My point is proven. And no, that's not a statement against you. Just evidence that these feelings are not a relativistic difference of opinion but evidence of an overall problem someone has which creates disfunction. Not just for people around you, but for yourself, leading to a life of misunderstanding, depression, etc. Thing is, I think everyone CHOOSES, at least in some great extent how they end up, through choices they make and how they decide to view the world. It shapes the path you will take in your life, all that rot.

Oh, and thanks for the welcome MourningStar . I'm an internet transient. I just randomly decide to drop then pick communities back up. Seems liek things are less annoying here right now - certain unsavory folks are not present, things seem cool here again. Aye.

 

[dance_with_death]

well you havent proven your point to me, but that doesnt matter. everyone has basically just given up hope on me, but i dont care because i have given up hope on everyone else...fuck it...this isnt worth arguing over

 

[Thanatos]

well you havent proven your point to me, but that doesnt matter. everyone has basically just given up hope on me, but i dont care because i have given up hope on everyone else...fuck it...this isnt worth arguing over

OMG, you're in the wrong forum, korn is on the other side of the web

 

[Polyeidus]

How dare anyone judge him for judging someone! ...See what a stupid idea relativism is?

I think you have made one of THE most important and by far the most intelligent thing I have ever read at UM. It's obvious I agree with much feeling and opinion, but wow.

 

[dance_with_death]

OMG, you're in the wrong forum, korn is on the other side of the web

korn can suck my cock and so can everyone else here

 

[dance_with_death]

I think you have made one of THE most important and by far the most intelligent thing I have ever read at UM. It's obvious I agree with much feeling and opinion, but wow.

it wasnt that great....

 

[Spike]

If one didn't know any better... one might say that you were looking for an argument or a fight...........

 

[bodomite]

argh another thread turns into a long and fucking boring debate

 

[Spike]

Would you rather we all kiss and make up?

 

[Wandrail]

I think you have made one of THE most important and by far the most intelligent thing I have ever read at UM. It's obvious I agree with much feeling and opinion, but wow.

See, there lots of us level-headed metal folk out there. And Thanatos...

...nice timing. Funny!

 

[Taliesin]

I love these conversations on here, because os many people into metal are kids with no real understanding of anything and certainly no experience in 'what the world is like'. I watched that stuff when I was a kid all interested in death, not really feeling anything about the human loss or suffering. Its called ignorance, and it is safe to use the word retarded if you consider yoruself an adult, because you should be in touch with basic human feeling. People who have no sense of empathy, have no ability to place themselves in the stead of another, belong in the looney bin, where they can't hurt normal people. Like in that movie Sling Blade. Mm-Hm.

Umm... this answer is going to be a bit more complicated
First of all, I dont say you're "wrong" really, because from your point of view, you arent. What you say is that when you see someone who isnt able to put himself in the stead of another and who lacks the sense of empathy belong in the looney bin. I understand your anger, but when you say they belong in the looney bin is when you're missing the point. You assume those people are in control, while in fact, they are not. I know, because I know exactly what Dance With Death is talking about. This kind of behaviour is due to hurt other people cause you. Yeah now you might say "WTF Pansy, grow some balls" but it really isnt that simple. When as a kid, you're vulnerable, people disappoint or hurt you at this wound spot, you need mecanisms to protect yourself, and that's what we're talking about here. Im not saying that they arent responsible for what they do, or that your anger isnt justified.. Im not even saying you're wrong, as I cant expect you to know the things I know, but sometimes there's more than just one side to a problem...
I hope you got what I mean and I leave you more wisely

 

[Wandrail]

I hope you got what I mean and I leave you more wisely

I'm not exactly left 'more wisely', bub . And this'll be even LONGER... Of course I know what you're talking about, but there's a difference between real trauma done to a child's psyche by things like violence and molestation and what is typical of someone like Dance with Death (not saying I know that person in the least) that you're a bitter teenage kid with alot of self-pity who is into alot of things that are outwardly negative and probably get off on the rebelious feeling of listening to metal music, etc.

I'm also not angry about stuff like this, I feel compassion and pity for people who waste precious time being so completely miserable and for no real reason. They aren't happy, they aren't pleased with life, but they will continue to be that way, and be convinced that they have some actual GREATER understanding of life, when they really don't get anything at all. They see half of the picture, if that. They wear their malcontent like a badge of honour, and consider themselves above others, who must just be naive. That's hardly the case. Its this person who needs to drop the facade and just be a real, healthy, normal person.

I don't say its a case of needing to get 'a pair', but of maturing and understanding the value in life and of being in touch with the basic fact that everyone else feels the same things you feel, good and bad. Everyone gets disappointed, everyone has moments where they hit what is to them rock bottom, even the guy with a big house, nice family, who is smiling all the time. I know I have, and not too long ago. But when you understand what an amazing thing the world, the universe, life, and everything is, all intertwined, I find it hard to dwell on the few, but certainly significant negative aspects of MY life.

If, however, you REALLY don't feel anything for another human being (and Dance with Death, I'm sure actually DOES feel things, he/she is no Ted Bundy, just a kid) then you do belong in the looney bin, because the only thing to keep you from violating another person's basic rights is the penalty of the law. We all know how good a deterrent that is to an irrational mind in a bleeding heart society where prisoners labelled as mentally impaired get sent to a hospital to do easy time.

 

[Taliesin]

Pfffff

Its this person who needs to drop the facade and just be a real, healthy, normal person.

Basically, I agree with what you said, only what you described as "bitter teenage kid" is more of a serious condition than you seem to admit. I agree that they should drop the facade and try being themselves again, but then again their mecanisms of selfprotection prevent them from doing so... mostly for good reason. I understand how you feel and Im glad for you, Im trying to reach that point too...
Im gonna stop now, it's way too many words for the little difference there is already

 

[dance_with_death]

I'm not exactly left 'more wisely', bub . And this'll be even LONGER... Of course I know what you're talking about, but there's a difference between real trauma done to a child's psyche by things like violence and molestation and what is typical of someone like Dance with Death (not saying I know that person in the least) that you're a bitter teenage kid with alot of self-pity who is into alot of things that are outwardly negative and probably get off on the rebelious feeling of listening to metal music, etc.

I'm also not angry about stuff like this, I feel compassion and pity for people who waste precious time being so completely miserable and for no real reason. They aren't happy, they aren't pleased with life, but they will continue to be that way, and be convinced that they have some actual GREATER understanding of life, when they really don't get anything at all. They see half of the picture, if that. They wear their malcontent like a badge of honour, and consider themselves above others, who must just be naive. That's hardly the case. Its this person who needs to drop the facade and just be a real, healthy, normal person.

I don't say its a case of needing to get 'a pair', but of maturing and understanding the value in life and of being in touch with the basic fact that everyone else feels the same things you feel, good and bad. Everyone gets disappointed, everyone has moments where they hit what is to them rock bottom, even the guy with a big house, nice family, who is smiling all the time. I know I have, and not too long ago. But when you understand what an amazing thing the world, the universe, life, and everything is, all intertwined, I find it hard to dwell on the few, but certainly significant negative aspects of MY life.

If, however, you REALLY don't feel anything for another human being (and Dance with Death, I'm sure actually DOES feel things, he/she is no Ted Bundy, just a kid) then you do belong in the looney bin, because the only thing to keep you from violating another person's basic rights is the penalty of the law. We all know how good a deterrent that is to an irrational mind in a bleeding heart society where prisoners labelled as mentally impaired get sent to a hospital to do easy time.

 

[bodomite]

 

[Wandrail]

Pfffff

Basically, I agree with what you said, only what you described as "bitter teenage kid" is more of a serious condition than you seem to admit. I agree that they should drop the facade and try being themselves again, but then again their mecanisms of selfprotection prevent them from doing so... mostly for good reason. I understand how you feel and Im glad for you, Im trying to reach that point too...
Im gonna stop now, it's way too many words for the little difference there is already

Heheh, aye sir. For people who find this conversation irritating, allow me to bring it back to the usual level - Beer, Boobs, Blast Beats, Blood, BlahBlahBlah. There.