So, who's gonna take the Republican nomination?

I have trouble with Guliani. His gun views are so far left. I don't think I could vote for him.

Absolutely! Most all of his views run leftward...or at least uncomfortably far from the legitimate Right. Why will supposed Conservatives not learn this lesson? Election after election we must settle for an "electable" candidate, who embodies less and less of the traditional Conservative principles. So long as the candidate dutifully mouths some platitude about a "strong defense" and a few invocations of the Hebrew Christ, we are all supposed to believe the next Barry Goldwater is in our midst!

Fah - those of us in New York know that Rudy is no friend to gun-owners to say the very least. He is also fiercely pro-"choice," pro-gay, pro-illegal immigrant(whether he admits it or not - his policies certainly were). Just because the guy handled himself admirably after 9/11 and was relatively tough on crime after the shameful Dinkins years, doesn't negate these things.
I'm not trying to knock Rudy unfairly...but he is about as traditionally Republican/Conservative as the man in the goddamn moon!

How any old-school Conservative can still be enthusiastic about any mainstream Republican candidate these days is beyond me. And for heavens' sake, please don't invoke that pablum about the lesser of two evils...after all these years of settling we have just what we asked for...evil, only somewhat less. How noble...
 
Absolutely! Most all of his views run leftward...or at least uncomfortably far from the legitimate Right. Why will supposed Conservatives not learn this lesson? Election after election we must settle for an "electable" candidate, who embodies less and less of the traditional Conservative principles. So long as the candidate dutifully mouths some platitude about a "strong defense" and a few invocations of the Hebrew Christ, we are all supposed to believe the next Barry Goldwater is in our midst!

Fah - those of us in New York know that Rudy is no friend to gun-owners to say the very least. He is also fiercely pro-"choice," pro-gay, pro-illegal immigrant(whether he admits it or not - his policies certainly were). Just because the guy handled himself admirably after 9/11 and was relatively tough on crime after the shameful Dinkins years, doesn't negate these things.
I'm not trying to knock Rudy unfairly...but he is about as traditionally Republican/Conservative as the man in the goddamn moon!

How any old-school Conservative can still be enthusiastic about any mainstream Republican candidate these days is beyond me. And for heavens' sake, please don't invoke that pablum about the lesser of two evils...after all these years of settling we have just what we asked for...evil, only somewhat less. How noble...

You took the words right out of my mouth. Rudy is a great guy and a charismatic fellow but, he is not a true conservative. As far as the Dems go, I still like Biden. He is about the only Democrat with any backbone that has entered the race.
 
I haven't really decided yet...I, too, am awaiting a True Conservative like Reagan...I know who I DON'T want, though:

Mitt Romney: this guy creeps me out...can't say why just yet...but I don't like him.

John McCain: He follows the political winds too easily...in my opinion, he flipflops as much as Kerry on the issues...he's just better at it.

I sure wish Arnold could run...there was talk of a Constitutional amendment back in the day, but it all died down.

I'd probably vote for Giuliani...he seems like a nice enough guy, strong on defense and willing to stand up for our country like a true patriot. However, like some of you have said...his left-leaning qualities are troubling.

The shameful truth is that I'd vote for anyone but a Democrackhead...I wish the Libertarians would get a viable candidate on the ballot.
 
I haven't really decided yet...I, too, am awaiting a True Conservative like Reagan...I know who I DON'T want, though:

Mitt Romney: this guy creeps me out...can't say why just yet...but I don't like him.

John McCain: He follows the political winds too easily...in my opinion, he flipflops as much as Kerry on the issues...he's just better at it.

I sure wish Arnold could run...there was talk of a Constitutional amendment back in the day, but it all died down.

I'd probably vote for Giuliani...he seems like a nice enough guy, strong on defense and willing to stand up for our country like a true patriot. However, like some of you have said...his left-leaning qualities are troubling.

The shameful truth is that I'd vote for anyone but a Democrackhead...I wish the Libertarians would get a viable candidate on the ballot.


Libertarians have had great canidates lately... you dickhead.
You just aren't paying attention to the Libertarian Party. You are stuck in your Democrat vs. Republican name-calling world.
Everything that Giuliani is left leaning on... The Libertarians are left leaning on.
Basically, Giuliani is almost a Libertarian.
Reagan wasn't a Libertarian, he courted the religious right... a sworn enemy of Libertarians.
So, please, quit using my Party for your childish democrat-republican games. It's an insult to the Libertarians everywhere.
 
Libertarians have had great canidates lately... you dickhead.
You just aren't paying attention to the Libertarian Party. You are stuck in your Democrat vs. Republican name-calling world.
Everything that Giuliani is left leaning on... The Libertarians are left leaning on.
Basically, Giuliani is almost a Libertarian.
Reagan wasn't a Libertarian, he courted the religious right... a sworn enemy of Libertarians.
So, please, quit using my Party for your childish democrat-republican games. It's an insult to the Libertarians everywhere.

i'd vote for a Libertarian if any of them had any viable ideas about what to do with this country. so far, however, that hasnt happened, as evidenced by the fact that no Libertarian has won an election in... how many years?? oh yeah, that's right. :lol:
 
i'd vote for a Libertarian if any of them had any viable ideas about what to do with this country. so far, however, that hasnt happened, as evidenced by the fact that no Libertarian has won an election in... how many years?? oh yeah, that's right. :lol:


You should vote libertarian just to give to the two party dictorship we have now the finger....Voting should be like buying something... the more choices you have the better off you are.....Even in the highly unlikely event that a libertarian won ....It would be like 4 years of controlled-anarchy.....What could possibly be more fun than that...........
 
i'd vote for a Libertarian if any of them had any viable ideas about what to do with this country. so far, however, that hasnt happened, as evidenced by the fact that no Libertarian has won an election in... how many years?? oh yeah, that's right. :lol:


Please do.. The more votes we get... the better.
Just don't expect us to enforce the Republicans' infamous prudery and warmongering.

For some great Libertarian analysis..
go to this man's site.
Lew Rockwell is the man.

The Main Page.
www.lewrockwell.com

Lew himself.
www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/rockwell-arch.html
 
Libertarians have had great canidates lately... you dickhead.
You just aren't paying attention to the Libertarian Party. You are stuck in your Democrat vs. Republican name-calling world.
Everything that Giuliani is left leaning on... The Libertarians are left leaning on.
Basically, Giuliani is almost a Libertarian.
Reagan wasn't a Libertarian, he courted the religious right... a sworn enemy of Libertarians.
So, please, quit using my Party for your childish democrat-republican games. It's an insult to the Libertarians everywhere.

You don't know a fucking thing about me, backdoor dentist. The Libertarians haven't had a viable presidential candidate since ever. If they would get a candidate who had a chance...who was truly working the polls and getting national attention and putting the Dummycrats and Repubs in danger....you better believe I would vote for him.

Otherwise, I'm voting Republican because we can't afford too many Democrat Presidents.
 
You should vote libertarian just to give to the two party dictorship we have now the finger....Voting should be like buying something... the more choices you have the better off you are.....Even in the highly unlikely event that a libertarian won ....It would be like 4 years of controlled-anarchy.....What could possibly be more fun than that...........

please tell me you're kidding.
first of all, there ARE more choices!! the Libertarians are on the ballots. they have a chance, but they have to say something that convinces people to vote for them. they have to have some sort of platform that people can get behind.
majority voting for either Democrat or Republican is the choice of the people. the idea that we should vote for somebody that isnt saying anything that makes sense to us or doesnt represent us, just because... is insane and anybody with that mentality doesnt belong in a voting booth until they've grown up.
 
please tell me you're kidding.
first of all, there ARE more choices!! the Libertarians are on the ballots. they have a chance, but they have to say something that convinces people to vote for them. they have to have some sort of platform that people can get behind.
majority voting for either Democrat or Republican is the choice of the people. the idea that we should vote for somebody that isnt saying anything that makes sense to us or doesnt represent us, just because... is insane and anybody with that mentality doesnt belong in a voting booth until they've grown up.

We have no choices are next president will be a Dem or a Repub...........
 
We have no choices are next president will be a Dem or a Repub...........


you DO have a choice. if you want to vote Libertarian, vote Libertarian. if you want to vote Green Party, vote Green Party. NOBODY is forced to vote for only Dems or Republicans. they DO have a choice.
HOWEVER, very few are voting for a third party, mainly for one of two reasons. either they think it's a 'throwaway' vote and wasted, or it's like i said: they're not giving anybody anything to get behind.
i can say for a fact that i'd vote Democrat, Libertarian, etc... if they presented a platform that i agreed with more.