terrymx said:the concept of IQ isnt perfect in any sense nor determine the real person to begin with.
Allow me to try...Demiurge said:Explain.
I'd say that a highly g-based IQ test would be nearly as inadequate for measuring any overall kind of "intelligence" as any other. There are too many mediating factors outside of the person's ability to perform on a test. Here are a few:
- Social/culturual limitations
- Finances
- Influences/opportunities/access to information
- Family/other social conditions
Furthermore, simple things like being tired, stressed, having other personal problems going on, etc. could have a huge influence on the results of such tests. All of these things reduce their validity and applicability, in my eyes.
Demiurge said:The test does not measure the information you have accumulated.
Demiurge said:The easy solution is to not take an IQ test while suffering from a high fever or being in the midst of a nervous breakdown.
I meant that access to information as well as life opportunities, etc. have a powerful influence on both how people will approach these tests and how they perform on them.
Another pertinent issue is that of anxiety and difficulty performing under stress.
Just like what I was getting into above with anxiety in test situations, it is not always realistic/feasible to expect people to be aware of everything that is influencing their ability to perform on a test like this. Essentially, it would be very difficult to accurately quantify and stratify the influences upon people's ability to complete an IQ test. There are far too many factors involve, and all of these reduce the extent to which IQ tests measure intelligence and increase the extent to which they measure a quagmire of inseperable factors which go beyond the easily or realitsically discernable, making it rather difficult to approach the subject of the efficacy of IQ testing regardless of the presence of g.
TylerTheNuke said:To truly measure someones smartness is like measuring someones health. It can't just be reduced to a number, because it is too nuanced.
g-loaded tests are fine and all, but they don't necessairily measure how you will perform in the real world. They really point out potential intellegence and adaptability.