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The good thing about scandinavia is that you can speak english with everyone, until you learn their language 
Swedes and Finns: What're your opinions on your countries?
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Torniojaws
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It's basically an AA club for the clinically insane
You could say that about Finland altogether. Come here if you have no problem with the following:
- Frigid women
- 95 % of people are puke-drunkards for half the week
- Idiotic government that turns all EU recommendations to non-negotiable laws to the pixel
- Large-scale strikes randomly on any and all important fields
- Non-stop frowning people who don't want to talk
- Behind-the-scenes racism (and the floodgates explode after alcohol)
- Uptight people
- Fear of progress and change
- High taxes (although it does provide free education, cheap healthcare [more on this next...], and free upkeep of streets)
- Cheap healthcare at the cost of FUCKING RIDICULOUS waiting times (6-12 months for all non-life threatening surgeries, for example)
- If you're not Finnish, most people will be passively hostile towards you at first
- Very bad weather for 80 % of the year
- Helsinki is a fucking ugly and boring city (nothing but concrete with barely any sights to see)
- Travelling costs an arm, a leg and an internal organ, plus the train system is a monopoly (= expensive, poor reliability, and bad conditions)
- The postal system is basically a semi-monopoly, or more accurately a cartel - no matter which of the two you select, the cost is pretty much the same (expensive)
- You will be hard-pressed to find a job through regular channels, you must have connections - doubly so when you're not Finnish
- Extremely strict police & parking cashiers
Have fun here
Williamn
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I was an exchange student in denmark for half a year (still counts as svandinavia, amirite?)
Had the time of my life, everything was amazing, except the danes, i think they don't like foreigners, but who doesn't anyway
generally we (danes) is very close minded and afraid of strangers, only time we can socialize with people we don't know is when we are drunk.. hence why we are one of the countries with the highest alcohol usage.
Rock on
Jevil
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The good thing about scandinavia is that you can speak english with everyone, until you learn their language
This, and what you said in the previous posts is true as fuck. I know what you mean when talking about "chaotic cities, stupid and criminal politicians, stupid laws, no welfare, no services, no research investements, etc...".
Your country and mine are quite similar. But for God's sake, I was 3 weeks ago in Firenze and Roma and have to admit that it is more dirty and untidy than in 1993. Roads and sidewalks are a bit old too, and people drive in a chaotic way.
Thanks God, Spain has developed in the last 30 years and it is not as it used to be, but anyway, many people feel ashamed of being spanish.
That is why half of the basque people want to be an independent state. Catalunya is also another region that want to be independent (well, come catalonians). It is not coincidence that both regions are the richest of the country. Probably in some years, decades, or centuries, Spain will be become a kind of United States Of Spain... or even splitted into smaller countries.
Scandinavia is an example of good working and it is highly envied by the rest of Europe...and they are taller! even though they go to the mediterranean shore in search of chicks, cheap beer and sunny beaches.
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The problem is that we pay lot of taxes, like scandinavia, but we have nothing in change. Politician become more and more rich, have their lobbies, etc...
I hope Italy will be the next Greece. The fact that people continuosly ranting about bad politicians but everytime they vote the same people....it's pathetic.
Here in Italy there are cities that work well of course, clean and well builded...but the majority are bad builded, with no sense, only because someone has to build. I read yesterday that now there is a project to expand the Rome airport, destroing lot of green zones and lot of archeological zones....only because some politician's friend has to earn money. But if you wanna do a new window in your house you have to spend lot of money, doing 1000 licenses, etc.... it's a sick system, where the one with money changes laws and does what he wants (and Berlusconi is the model of this system).
I would love to be in a country where laws are equals for everyone (I know it's uthopic) and not in a country where the ones that create the laws and that should be the first to do the good example, are the first that don't respect the rules...in this way, every people in the country has this model and is legitimate to don't respect rules... Pretty idiot.
I hope Italy will be the next Greece. The fact that people continuosly ranting about bad politicians but everytime they vote the same people....it's pathetic.
Here in Italy there are cities that work well of course, clean and well builded...but the majority are bad builded, with no sense, only because someone has to build. I read yesterday that now there is a project to expand the Rome airport, destroing lot of green zones and lot of archeological zones....only because some politician's friend has to earn money. But if you wanna do a new window in your house you have to spend lot of money, doing 1000 licenses, etc.... it's a sick system, where the one with money changes laws and does what he wants (and Berlusconi is the model of this system).
I would love to be in a country where laws are equals for everyone (I know it's uthopic) and not in a country where the ones that create the laws and that should be the first to do the good example, are the first that don't respect the rules...in this way, every people in the country has this model and is legitimate to don't respect rules... Pretty idiot.
ze kink
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No, it's definately a cool place. Why there though instead of TKK (Teknillinen korkeakoulu)? I keep hearing it's considered to be the place to be in if you want to study maths etc.
Notuern
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Hmm, yeah, now that you mention it, I remember that's similar to what I had heard; I suppose I can't condemn a society that puts pressure on people to be progressive and forward-thinking, but balance in all things is always key, and too much liberalism can make a nation a bunch of pussies
Well, for instance we took in more immigrants from Iraq then the rest of the world did together.
Immigrants get EVERYTHING payed to them by the state, they dont have to work because we pay insane amounts of money to immigrants.
Our processes of immigration is basically that the border is almost free, all you have to do is say that you are an immigrant and the process gets started, then you get a fake id(Administered by the state since you probably dont have a valid one.), then you get completely free health and dentalcare(Which not even us Swedes are.).
Then after 5-8 years, the state might come and say "Naah, we cant find any reasons for you guys to live here.", so then they have to move home even though they have children that dont even speak "their" native language.
Swedens immigration policies is one of the reasons i want to leave this country.
We flood the borders with immigrants, we give them their own home, we give their kids school.. basically, we give them everything you need to live a good life.
Then it can take up to 10 years before we decide if they actually are allowed to stay in our country, so we have then payed for a whole family during a 10 year period just to kick them out(With their children that grew up here.).
Trust me on this though, i dont have any problems with having very open borders, but you cant let anyone that wants to move in to the country on "trial".
And on another scary side-note: Its illegal to sing the national anthem in some schools here in Sweden, as it is considered racist.
Notuern
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Same here in Italy, but we have stupid parties that claim to close the borders, etc..bla bla bla...but in 15 years they do nothing.
Immigration is inevitable...it's the State that has to select the good and the bad immigration. Last year we have a big amount of romenian people that entered, lot of good people but also lot of criminals.
Moreover, there are lot of immigrants that are here for about 20 years and still don't have the resident permit, also if they have their activities, sons, pay taxes, etc...
You know what? Immigration is always good for politician because they create the fear for the immigrants, tv only show when immigrants commit crimes (also if there is 1 criminal and 50 workers) and this fear generates votes.
AboutBlank
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Sweden is the most beautiful land I have ever been.
Seriously, I love the landscape and the women in sweden.
I would love to visit sweden again(money, aarggh).
Was there 2 times to canoe. Amazing!
Seriously, I love the landscape and the women in sweden.
I would love to visit sweden again(money, aarggh).
Was there 2 times to canoe. Amazing!
Sickan
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Alot of what Notuern says about the immigrants is true, but the nationalist party (Sverige Demokraterna - Sweden Democrats) leaders are beyond fucked up, many of them are involved with the neo-nazi party (Nationalsocialistisk front - National Socialist Front). I want the immigration to be more controlled, but not SD-controlled.
Haha, en vän länkade den igår och jag dog av skratt.
I was with my parents last week and we talked about that, my dad apparantly pays like 2800$ in income tax.
Nu bor jag i Skövde, går på Högskolan I Skövde (Musik- och Ljudproduktion - mestadels av utbildningen är i piss-skara).Jasså?
Vart bor du nu då?
Och jag kollade inte länken, men jag har sett den innan.
Haha, en vän länkade den igår och jag dog av skratt.
Notuern
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No, not the same as Italy.
We take in the most immigrants out of every single country in the world, even though our population is as small as 9 million.
Swedes tend to be blind to this as an issue, because we are supposed to be liberal and help people(But in reality we are just burning our economy to the ground.).
We have a political party similar to those you talk about, called "Sverige Demokraterna"(Swedish Democrats"), who basically says that they want to control the immigration harder(To keep criminals out and workers in.), keep the Swedish culture alive etc.. but in reality, they are just a bunch of neo-Nazi's that would build a concentration camp if they ever got a chance to.
We take in the most immigrants out of every single country in the world, even though our population is as small as 9 million.
Swedes tend to be blind to this as an issue, because we are supposed to be liberal and help people(But in reality we are just burning our economy to the ground.).
We have a political party similar to those you talk about, called "Sverige Demokraterna"(Swedish Democrats"), who basically says that they want to control the immigration harder(To keep criminals out and workers in.), keep the Swedish culture alive etc.. but in reality, they are just a bunch of neo-Nazi's that would build a concentration camp if they ever got a chance to.
Immigrants are received with arms wide open here. I love it. Probably my favourite thing is how my city is a mix of many cultures: portuguese, italians, spanish, natives, africans, japanese, germans, arabs, jews, chinese, koreans, etc. A friend of mine goes to NY every year and says that there´s people from all over the world there too, but they're more like living side-by-side rather than living together. It´s like "little china here, little russia there, little italy across the street, etc". Mixing cultures is good and priceless.
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I like how googling "swedish" gives you this:
"Norwegian" =
"Finnish" = all kinds of random stuff
haha just found this
http://www.swedishgirl.se/swedish_girls_vs_british_nightclubs/
(i think it's safe for work but just in case I'm giving it as a link)
"Norwegian" =
"Finnish" = all kinds of random stuff
haha just found this
http://www.swedishgirl.se/swedish_girls_vs_british_nightclubs/
(i think it's safe for work but just in case I'm giving it as a link)
Dude, are you saying Sweden will seriously deport some people who had immigrated there like 10 years ago? Are we talking like police forces breaking down the doors and arresting these people if they refuse to cooperate?
I was with my parents last week and we talked about that, my dad apparantly pays like 2800$ in income tax.
That doesn't sound like all that much at all (assuming it's annual, or even monthly) - do you think there's anything about his situation that means he has to pay significantly less than most people, or is that the norm?
I'll definitely +1 this, interesting how it's not so much the case in Brazil!
This is where we are (going).
Immigrants don't have to do anything and we pay a LOT to them, and talking about it is instantly racist. I don't have anything against them, since I know it basically goes like this: They're taken in, they're never helped to get jobs or learn the language or how things are done around here for that matter; and then given the chance of either working or not doing anything. In most cases they actually get more money by not doing anything.
I can't blame them, I would do the same thing in their place. It would be fucking stupid to work for living in that situation, unless you get a job with a real pay.
And +1 to most of Torniojaws' points, some of them were spot on.
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