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Since this was discussed in the gear thread.
Guitar related. What is the best way to hold your three fingers not holding the pick whilst floating and do different ways affect your playing?
Guitar related. What is the best way to hold your three fingers not holding the pick whilst floating and do different ways affect your playing?
Aqualung
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petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
lolz 42.
I actually curl my fingers up into a fist when I'm doing free floating or palm resting alternate picking. Like, just big fast runs. It's weird, my hand goes into a full closed position really.
But then there are some runs I do where I mix legato and alternate picking and I don't anchor, and sometimes I do anchor. I'm all over the place but it works. I'm trying to work something out though, lol.
I actually curl my fingers up into a fist when I'm doing free floating or palm resting alternate picking. Like, just big fast runs. It's weird, my hand goes into a full closed position really.
But then there are some runs I do where I mix legato and alternate picking and I don't anchor, and sometimes I do anchor. I'm all over the place but it works. I'm trying to work something out though, lol.
FerretallicA
HMAS Slagdestroyer
I only ever have 2 fingers not holding the pick. A three-fingered grip just feels more natural for me. I can play with two but the control feels tighter and more precise with three. The two spares are sometimes leveraged on the body near the volume knob but they usually just float free.
petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
FerretallicA
HMAS Slagdestroyer
The Apparition
Porpoise McSalamander
I've tried it and at first it's a bit strange but it definitely helps with control and i find it helps angle the pick a bit straighter. I'm pretty sure Steve Morse uses 3 to hold the pick.Why not try itIt's not that odd. At least I don't think so.
petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
Nebulous
Daniel
What kind of shredder uses a flat-picking technique!!!
Nicer attack in flat-picking.
petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
It's impossible to shred fast with a completely flat pick.
I'm talkin' dead set flat-picking here. No angle at all, not even 10 degree angle.
The Apparition
Porpoise McSalamander
Ok so what is the best way to pick? With your arm or wrist? For example: Petrucci picks with his entire arm when he speed picks
Romeo uses his wrist
Kiko from Angra uses his wrist
I usually find theres wrist picking can only get you to a certain point and then i have to use my arm for excess speed. I always use my arm for fast palm mute stuff.
Romeo uses his wrist
Kiko from Angra uses his wrist
I usually find theres wrist picking can only get you to a certain point and then i have to use my arm for excess speed. I always use my arm for fast palm mute stuff.
FerretallicA
HMAS Slagdestroyer
That might contribute to my being such a slow motherfucker. I pick almost entirely from the wrist. My arm only really moves if I'm picking further up or down the string (as in close to / further from the bridge) and that's all about changing the tone, not gaining speed.
petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
I do the same as Petrucci mostly, which is also what Rusty Cooley does (only without his pinky for an anchor, he floats his hand) but if I'm using economy picking I do it just like Romeo or Loureiro. Kiko economy picks his huge runs and I'm pretty sure Romeo uses economy picking on SOME of his big runs.
I guess it all depends on how much you practice, eh? Like with wrist picking there is really a point where you can't go much/any faster, you are right. But for most people that point is up in the 200bpm+ areas, then they use more arm movement.
I use my wrist for fast palm muting stuff, I don't know anyone who uses their arm with palm muting, kinda seems hard to do whilst your wrist is usually on the bridge somewhere, which anchors your arm. Each to their own.
petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
Yeah I pick right over the bridge pickup when I want to go faster, and when I don't really need the speed I pick between the bridge and middle or neck pickups somewhere.
The Apparition
Porpoise McSalamander
I've seen alot of guitarists use their arm for palm muted stuff. No one exclusively uses their arm. That would be stupid. There will still be a bit of wrist movement. What about palm muted speed picking runs? A lot of guitarists do that and would use the same technique to do so.I do the same as Petrucci mostly, which is also what Rusty Cooley does (only without his pinky for an anchor, he floats his hand) but if I'm using economy picking I do it just like Romeo or Loureiro. Kiko economy picks his huge runs and I'm pretty sure Romeo uses economy picking on SOME of his big runs.
I guess it all depends on how much you practice, eh? Like with wrist picking there is really a point where you can't go much/any faster, you are right. But for most people that point is up in the 200bpm+ areas, then they use more arm movement.
I use my wrist for fast palm muting stuff, I don't know anyone who uses their arm with palm muting, kinda seems hard to do whilst your wrist is usually on the bridge somewhere, which anchors your arm. Each to their own.
Your wrist doesn't have to sit right on top of the bridge to palm mute. I have no problem using the same technique to speed pick with palm muting as i do normally??????????????
petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
Yeah, but to palm mute, the fleshy side of the hand is used, that's what I mean by hand being on the bridge (or right next to anyway).
petrucci_dude
teh shredz0r
There is no right or wrong technique just whatever works best for each individual musician.
Of course there are more traditional techniques and some obscure ones, but depends what works for you best.
Of course there are more traditional techniques and some obscure ones, but depends what works for you best.
FerretallicA
HMAS Slagdestroyer
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