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Were there bootleggers selling fake In Flames T-shirts outside your venues?

(Mine did. :))
 
Samarkol said:
You're so right. 13 years old kids don't have the right to listen to In Flames, it is a shame. An spitting on those kids is the next funniest thing on Earth after pissing on them. Yeah.

Sam

ok first of all who the hell are you to say that 13 year old kids aren't allowed to listen to In Flames, ANYONE CAN LISTEN TO WHAT EVER THE FUCK THEY WANT, and if you can't respect that then you suck Sam. pissing and spitting on a crowd just gives them a bad rep and will lose fans, possibly gain law suits, and that's just plain mean, i mean wtf? and another thing, what happens when the kids grow up, are they still not allowed to listen to them, you were 13 once too so i think that you shouldn't be allowed to listen to them
 
I saw this bill at the Rave in Milwaukee in mid-2002 in this order (from start)

Sentenced- Dark Tranquility- Killswitch Engage- In Flames

Every band was really good EXCEPT for Killswitch. After three songs my friend and I sat down, closed our eyes, and BOTH fell asleep! No joke! We woke up as they were coming off the stage. I thought that they were just two guitars full of crap noise with a hardcore singer screaming at the crowd, still angry because his Mom took away his Playstation years ago :Spin: :Spin: .


I will take your word for it that Killswitch is more popular in the U.S., as I'm not an expert on the matter, but I would have sworn it was In Flames.
 
KsE Liberator said:
ok first of all who the hell are you to say that 13 year old kids aren't allowed to listen to In Flames, ANYONE CAN LISTEN TO WHAT EVER THE FUCK THEY WANT, and if you can't respect that then you suck Sam. pissing and spitting on a crowd just gives them a bad rep and will lose fans, possibly gain law suits, and that's just plain mean, i mean wtf? and another thing, what happens when the kids grow up, are they still not allowed to listen to them, you were 13 once too so i think that you shouldn't be allowed to listen to them
Actually, I'm 99,7% sure the guy was being sarcastic. :)
 
ok first of all who the hell are you to say that 13 year old kids aren't allowed to listen to In Flames, ANYONE CAN LISTEN TO WHAT EVER THE FUCK THEY WANT, and if you can't respect that then you suck Sam. pissing and spitting on a crowd just gives them a bad rep and will lose fans, possibly gain law suits, and that's just plain mean, i mean wtf? and another thing, what happens when the kids grow up, are they still not allowed to listen to them, you were 13 once too so i think that you shouldn't be allowed to listen to them

typical statement...hahaha..i'd do the same thing...its the fact that the kids think they know everything about metal or something..its stupid..and they act like retards..thats what pisses me off...so i fuck with them and beat the shit out of them

possibly gain law suits, and that's just plain mean,
lawsuits?..how old are you kid?..and do you know anything about metal?..lawsuits?...hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

you must be one of those..what do they call them?..faggots?
 
Jabi said:
Actually, I'm 99,7% sure the guy was being sarcastic. :)
ok then i didn't know that but he sounded like he meant it

ok funeral eclipse i do know some about law, and i do know some about metal, yeah they could get sued, but that's not the point, the point is, is that that's really immature, and yeah those kids are ignorant and should get a better understanding about metal but still, they're there to have fun, leave them alone
 
the point is why would you sue unless you're a fucking pussy and a little bitch ass emo kid..seriously now

ok kids can have fun..but when they act like fucking idiots its fucking annoying..and its not all of them..and maybe i should of clarified that i was talking about some
 
I hate metalcore. The reason anyone would think any metalcore band is arguably "better" than any specific Gothenburg band is because they ripped off that Gothenburg band. Rose of Sharyn has some rip off riffs from Whoracle. Some of the melodic parts in the 2nd riff of that song remind me of the 2nd half of the main riff in Food for the Gods. Fuck metalcore. Fuck this US "metal" scene. Fuck "SiC!1" breakdowns, fuck trendy emo haircuts, girl pants and metrosexual postures, fuck spin kicks and "hardcore dancing." It isn't the individuals in the bands I despise, I respect them for playing music they love. I despise the scenters, the new "metalheads," and any bands copying off swedish metal or other metalcore bands jumping on the bandwagon.
 
Dreadful said:
Fuck metalcore. Fuck this US "metal" scene. Fuck "SiC!1" breakdowns, fuck trendy emo haircuts, girl pants and metrosexual postures, fuck spin kicks and "hardcore dancing." It isn't the individuals in the bands I despise, I respect them for playing music they love. I despise the scenters, the new "metalheads," and any bands copying off swedish metal or other metalcore bands jumping on the bandwagon.
Well, these days we can't depend on Sweden for decent Gothenburg metal, can we? :err:
 
[BOTH HAVE STRONG POINTS. I HATE THE HARDCORE DANCING AND THE KICKING AND SHIT BUT I ALSO THINK THE SWEDISH BANDS HAVE BEEN LACKING A LITTLE AS OF LATE. ITS HARD TO SAY WHATS GOING ON REALLY. BUT ALSO REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING IN METAL WAS DONE IN THE THRASH MOVEMENT OF THE EARLY 80s AND THAT MOST OF WHAT WE HEAR TODAY IS NOT ALL THAT PROGRESSED ITS BASICALLY RECYCLED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. NO BAND KNOW DAYS HAS A REAL DISTINCT SOUND THATS NEVER BEEN DONE OR TRIED BEFORE. YOU JUST GOT TO TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. METAL AND ENJOY IT. NO ONE SAID YOU GOTTA GET INTO THE NEW METAL HEAD MOVEMENT AND JUST REMEMBER ALL THESE STUPID KIDS WILL ONE DAY GROW UP AND GET OUT OF IT BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ONLY LIKE WHATS NEW OR POPULAR. IT WILL ALL PASS IN GOOD TIME.
 
How many of you are so goddamn dependent on Sweden that ya cant wake up? This whole "Gothenburg" thing has been going on for awhile now has it not? Everyone has head everything from there and people are trying to emulate it. How long did the NWOBHM last? Get a grip and find some new tunes.
 
WELL I THINK THE AMERICAN DEATH SCENE SUCKS BECAUSE IM NOT A CANNIBAL or SUFFOCATION OR MORBID ANGEL FAN. THe SWEDISH DEATH VOX JUST REALLY STICK TO ME. BESIDES THAT I LISTEN TO POWER METAL HAHA YEAH LAUGH ALL YOU WANT BUT REALLY BESIDES THE METALCORE AND SWEDISH SCENE I CANT FIND ANY VOCALS I LIKE. I dont even like the stuff from shadows fall a whole lot. Its not about the music so much is the vocals Im really picky about vocals and I think there are alot of other people who like them too and thats why the swedish scene is mentioned so much.
 
Vocals aside, The American bands you mentioned play a very different style of "Death Metal" than the Swedes. Less of a melodic sound with more emphasis on being brutal. I do agree that there is a great difference between the cookie monster vocals of most of these brutal bands and the screams of In Flames/Dark Tranqulty/At the Gates, etc. I think the first wave of Death vocals from Possessed, Death and Obituary(how can you beat Tardy?!) were the best though. Check them out if you haven't already.

Look to the past is what we should do
When justice was done and justice was true

This applies to Metal mostly as well, unfortunately.
 
I don't hear too much of a difference between Swedish and American death vox.

We're not using Anders as a measuring bar, are we? :err:
 
Dreadful said:
It isn't the individuals in the bands I despise, I respect them for playing music they love. I despise the scenters, the new "metalheads," and any bands copying off swedish metal or other metalcore bands jumping on the bandwagon.
aren't the individuals in the bands the new "metalheads"? And you hate the bands ripping off Gothenburg, but not the individuals in the band ripping off the gothenburg sound?


And about the differences in vocals of US and Swedish death metal: you guys are acting as if the only death metal to come out of sweden is the melodic/gothenburg stuff.

Of course Brutal American Death metal and Melodic/Gothenburg Swedish metal have different vocals styles.