The Evolution of Sneap's Sound

how everybody pees his pants with joy when they hear analogue stuff was used... i guess the digital realm can't be that bad if even high class producers pretty much rely on it
 
how everybody pees his pants with joy when they hear analogue stuff was used... i guess the digital realm can't be that bad if even high class producers pretty much rely on it

everyone uses digital these days due to ease of use... but show me one engineer/producer that has been around since the early days and thinks digital sounds superior to analog

give me those pissing razors or the black album over new LOG album production any day
 
everyone uses digital these days due to ease of use... but show me one engineer/producer that has been around since the early days and thinks digital sounds superior to analog

give me those pissing razors or the black album over new LOG album production any day

Colin Richardson:D
 
^ i highly doubt that he'd use it if he thinks it doesn't sound on par. i didn't say digital or analogue is better, but analogue is not "the holy grail" which makes everything sounds so fantastic... no need to be pushed over the edge...
 
how everybody pees his pants with joy when they hear analogue stuff was used... i guess the digital realm can't be that bad if even high class producers pretty much rely on it

To me the good part of the analogue days is much more about the fact that it was real performances by real musicians rather than the punch, cut, quantise, crossfade (repeat till end of album) that's so prevalent these days.
 
To me the good part of the analogue days is much more about the fact that it was real performances by real musicians rather than the punch, cut, quantise, crossfade (repeat till end of album) that's so prevalent these days.

Me to. It just gives me faith in music hearing old Pantera records or Dream Theater sounding like its been gay-quantized etc but it isn't just freakin awesome performances made by great musicians.


A little bit OP. but when did quantized drums as we now it today made possible? Was it with PT hd aka early 2000 or even earlier?
 
Pissing Razors' first 2 albums sound fucking ridiculous. So good.

Not enough people reference those albums along side Formation/Gathering/Godless Endeavour as classic Sneap mixes.

Ive always thought this as well. I just bought those records for the second time off amazon last year.
 
To me the good part of the analogue days is much more about the fact that it was real performances by real musicians rather than the punch, cut, quantise, crossfade (repeat till end of album) that's so prevalent these days.

no doubt that this is somehow true (although back in the analogue days many producers also were quite anal about editing), but I think there are many many fantastic albums out there who were mixed completely in the box.. well, let's not derail this thread, I wasnt saying that digital is the real deal anyway.. my point was: don't hate the player, hate the game :)
 
To me the good part of the analogue days is much more about the fact that it was real performances by real musicians rather than the punch, cut, quantise, crossfade (repeat till end of album) that's so prevalent these days.

Nobody forces anyone to use sample replacement, beat detective or other digital tools in a DAW. To me these may save my ass when needed but if working with good musicians you do not need to use these tools just because they are at your fingertips. There's no law to edit the hell out of everything and kill the last bit of life out of a performance. You can as well use Pro Tools like a Tape Machine with mixing possibilities.
That's what I love about the new Testament for example and what gives it that classic vibe. Just great musicians performing great songs and mixed in a way that upholds just that.
 
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Well of course you are right but that isn't reality these days. Of course there are bands that can play really well but they are the exception these days. But ppl for sure overdo editing these days. I also prefer a bit more human touch then over tuned, over quantized productions.
 
Believe me, I have my fair share of musicians that can't play their shit. Drummers that hit like a pussy, guitar players that hit the strings like pussies and produce more noise than usable signal, leads that are out of tune no matter how often you tune the guitar, clean singing that is... a well, let's forget about that.There's always the chance of changing the part for the better or of course editing - but there's a difference in polishing a performance or making it sound like a bunch of robots performing. Something you hear much too often these days and which makes records boring and strangely unemotional.
 
Andy,

Have you found yourself not being as critical to the timing of the drums than you were say 10 years ago or once tight drum editing became more feasible? Maybe critical isn't the right word, but I've noticed on some of your more recent records("formation" stands out as one) that I hear a little more push and pull from the drums than some of the earlier records. I guess why I'm asking is when I first got a grip on beat detective I felt that I overused it myself and it took me some time to realize that I like it when a drummer pushes the down beat a bit, or pushes/drags a fill depending on the section of the song. As long as the rest of the band can lock in to the drum performance, it actually really can bring a lot more energy to the track.

Just curious to hear your thoughts..and also, the new Testament sounds amazing and please get a HELL U.S. show/tour to happen some day!!