the great outdoors

[iekobrid]

Aside from strategic use of sound effect layers, how might one go about making a studio recording sound like it was recorded outdoors? Specifically, making acoustic guitar & vocal sound like someone sitting alone on a beach, facing out towards the ocean.

With no walls or hard surfaces in the simulated environment, I wouldn't expect there to be much straight reverb could do for me. Has anyone made impulses of the outdoors?

 

[KeithRT99]

i would imagine: really dry with alot of wind and seagulls.

are you sound designing a beach ambience or are you just track to get it to sound like the beach without the beach sounds?

 

[GuitarMaestro]

With no walls or hard surfaces in the simulated environment, I wouldn't expect there to be much straight reverb could do for me. Has anyone made impulses of the outdoors?

I think it depends on which effect you are looking for. If your are at the beach at the players position or close to him you would not get much reverb and acoustic effects at all. To capture that effect I think you have to record as dry as possible.
I guess you are after the sound of space/distance that you would hear from somewhere not very close to the player? That would definately need the right kinda reverb....

 

[iekobrid]

Trying to make the listener feel like they're the one playing guitar at the beach, like in a Corona advert. I'm okay with the idea of using sound effects to paint the scene, but I don't want to have to be too heavy handed with them, nor have main elements than seem to contradict them and blow the illusion.

So yeah, dry dry dry... almost a negative amount of reverb, were such a thing possible. And with the sound effects, how to make them seem somewhat distant when, again, you can't rely on the sound of reflections off walls and floor to give the ear a sense of space. Dry again, I guess. I mean, sound will reflect off the surface of the ocean a bit, but all over the place instead of in any particular direction. Could that kind of ambient 'scatter' be mixed in real low?

 

[greyskull]

tl space has got some outside impulses, in the woods, in the back of a van
etc

 

[everybody's x]

record it outside

 

[everybody's x]

like Kings X

 

[JeffTD]

Hahaha they actually did that for an album? That's nuts! How'd it turn out?

 

[Torniojaws]

Must be a nightmare with the wind

 

[everybody's x]

thats michael wagener's driveway, they did it for one song on the last album

 

[KeithRT99]

logic's space designer has a bunch of outdoor ambiences.

 

[joeymusicguy]

Aside from strategic use of sound effect layers, how might one go about making a studio recording sound like it was recorded outdoors? Specifically, making acoustic guitar & vocal sound like someone sitting alone on a beach, facing out towards the ocean.

With no walls or hard surfaces in the simulated environment, I wouldn't expect there to be much straight reverb could do for me. Has anyone made impulses of the outdoors?

the only thing that defines the environment we're in, when you remove smell, taste, sight, and feel, is sound

and the sounds within that environment give us an idea of where we are

sound effects is really the only answer, as the physics of the acoustics in a beach situation are literally just dry

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Don't forget at the beach, you got the wind blowing peoples' voices all around, and knocking out a lot of high frequency detail. I have no idea how you could duplicate that inside.

 

[colonel kurtz]

yea...outside = no walls/space = no reverb/ambience whatsoever

there's really no way to replicate it

 

[Sloan]

just do some stereo field recording of environments you like. insert in track. BAM!