The iPhone

[Loren Littlejohn]

I know this is somewhat off topic (well actually this device is only a 3rd music related but I thought I would ask)

I don't know about any of you but I recently upgraded to the L7 slvr (with itunes) and I must say having these 2 devices integrated is great for me personally (phone and music player). That being said the iphone looks like a good idea especially for phone and music, the internet is meh usually data plans aren't worth it IMO anyways.

What do you guys think? Just wondering.

 

[JeffTD]

I want one incredibly badly.

That said, I don't want it 8GB for $600 + $80 per month badly.


When flash storage starts getting cheap for huge capacities, I'll start looking again.

A 20-30gb model that ran $450, with a monthly fee of no more than $50 or so would be perfect, IMO.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Holly crap didn't know the fees associated with the phone. That being said I am happy with my 1gig flash mem sliver.

honestly the internet on a phone blah. Unless your using for buisness, blah.

 

[JeffTD]

With a screen that size, I can imagine e-mail and texting/IMing being awesome, as well as music, movies, and actual phone calls.


The most intriguing thing, though, to me, is that it can sense gestures from all 10 fingers at once, it's bluetooth, and it runs OS X.

Over on the Cubase forums, we were thinking that this thing might be able to be used to control a DAW in a really cool way - moving multiple faders virtually with different fingers, turning knobs and whatnot.

Then again that same idea could be totally gay.

 

[Sloan]

i don't think the screen is big enuff for my r0nzp.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

With a screen that size, I can imagine e-mail and texting/IMing being awesome, as well as music, movies, and actual phone calls.


The most intriguing thing, though, to me, is that it can sense gestures from all 10 fingers at once, it's bluetooth, and it runs OS X.

Over on the Cubase forums, we were thinking that this thing might be able to be used to control a DAW in a really cool way - moving multiple faders virtually with different fingers, turning knobs and whatnot.

Then again that same idea could be totally gay.

You know that could be cool but at the same time wouldn't the panel have to be larger than you would want in order for it to be worth it?

 

[Noumenon]

I need one
The IMAP version of Yahoo! Mail is very nice, I miss having IMAP with Yahoo! when using Mail

 

[iekobrid]

I glanced at it, but it didn't appear to have an integrated camera? I would probably use that function more than the actual telephone function. (though not enough to warrant a third standalone digital camera in the household)

 

[Jackal_Strain]

It's got a 2megapixel camera integrated.

 

[JeffTD]

So far, it can't connect to iChat, open Word or Excel documents, and the web browser doesn't support flash or java.

 

[iekobrid]

It's got a 2megapixel camera integrated.

Fuck. I may have been better off not knowing that.

 

[ScottCash]

Top 10 Reasons To Hate The iPhone

Having woken up from my spout of iPhone induced gizmo-lust, I've now uncovered 10 reasons to hate the iPhone.

1. The video camera is old. If I'm going to spend $499 on this thing why would I want a 2.5 megapixel camera on a product that's going to ship in six months when four Megapixel camera phones are already out?

2. The iPhone is crying out for built-in video calling, but it's not possible, at least in the first model. The camera is on the wrong side.

3. The visual voicemail that Steve Jobs was so sure would revolutionize telephony is nothing more than unified messaging that's we've had for years.

4. Sure browsing on the Internet looks cool in demos but get ready to pay and wait. The Cingular Wireless Edge data network used by the iPhone often drops to dial-up speed.

5. That onscreen keyboard looks awfully difficult to use. Watching Jobs punch in those letters looks downright painful. Don't expect to be typing long-emails on that baby.

6. Speaking of input, where's the voice recognition? Ok so even if that's too far ahead of where we're at what about text to speech? GoogleMaps would be way cooler if the directions were being read to us while we drive.

7. iPhone would also be helped big time with a GPS locater. Sure that'll come in handy with the GoogleMaps, but it'll also come in handy when I lose my darn thing. Think about the marketing possibilities. Apple could then sell two iPhones one for you to use and then one for you to find the one you've lost!

8. Jobs compares iPhone to the smartphone. So who buys smart phones? Enterpises and white collar workers. And who's going to buy iPhones? Not enterprises that's for sure, at least no time soon. There's no support for synchronization with corporate applications -- namely Notes and Exchange Enterprise support options are lacking. Lose the iPhone device and you'd like to be able to lock it or remotely wipe the memory to protect personal contents. Don’t expect those sorts of capabilities any time soon.

9. Sluggish performance. Early reports from folks that I spoke with are that some apps don’t perform as well as Steve might have led us to believe. Is anyone surprised? Watching the video oo playing with the new iPhone interface looks way cool, but put that into practice and you've got to wonder what it's really going to be like panning, zooming, and moving around images -- and what will that screen do for battery life?

10. Full-scale Internet browsing is clunky on those screens, or so I've heard.

 

[ThatGuitarGuy]

the fact that its a first gen for a phone for apple...and that its on cingular...which means that its going to be rediculously slow with the internet...that killed me.

I'll give it another GOOD glance when they get out of their contract with cingular.

 

[LydonB]

i want one so bad. they look so freaking bad ass.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

the fact that its a first gen for a phone for apple...and that its on cingular...which means that its going to be rediculously slow with the internet...that killed me.

I'll give it another GOOD glance when they get out of their contract with cingular.

Yeah... I am on cingular. But not there internet. I switched from verizon cause the dropped calls were killing me, plus all my friends are on cingular so it end up being cheaper. I still get dropped calls but it's about hal what it used to be so I am happy.

Plus I like my sliver.

 

[ThatGuitarGuy]

I used to get dropped calls constantly with GSM networks (Tmobile/cingular) and ever since I moved over to CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) it's GREATLY reduced, clearer, and the internet on my treo is really fast...when I hook it up to my laptop and use it as a modem, it moves as fast as a decent to low end broadband connection (800kbps or so at best)

Sprint is working on a wimax network that'll move its internet to over 3.5GB/s....that'll be sick....

cingular is still at....100kbs on their edge network....

for what the iphone is capable of doing, it's on the wrong network for high speed stuff...

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I think phones are mostly where you are located as far as the network goes (well for calls anyways).

Again no exp as far as wireless net goes.

 

[SPLASTiK]

It's pretty cool but I don't like the fact you're tied to a carrier and they're expensive and I'm cheap

Also they're not allowing application development by 3rd parties! Jobs even said we wouldn't want that and that 3rd party aps could crash the whole Cingular network. Yeah, Jobs, sure thing. There are phones that run Windows Mobile and there's plenty of 3rd party software for that... sure don't here it crashing entire networks and it's Windows!

I'll wait 2 years for the exclusive deal with Cingular to get over. Hopefully they'll be cheap by then, open to development and be open to whatever cell provider I want.

In the meantime I'm pretty excited about the LG KE850... They won some awards for it already and the iPhone looks awfully similar to it... When pictures of it leaked months ago, people thought it might actually be the iPhone.

Some cool videos of the phone can be found here
Comes out in March or April. Hope it's cheaper!

 

[ThatGuitarGuy]

they don't want third party apps right now because they want to be seen as the most stable in the smart phone market...after it establishes itself I believe they're going to go through AUTHORIZED 3rd party programs. As in, programs that are tested and approved by apple.

 

[SPLASTiK]

Bah, that's just silly though. If I'm paying $600 for a phone, I should be able to install anything I damn well please on it. It's not like the average person doesn't understand that applications not made by Apple could possibly be unstable... I'm sure it will hacked up quickly though and Linux will be running on it at least.