Einherjar86
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Do you actually think that sly edit makes your point? Do you not see the value of the clause that you conveniently deleted? Nice try at being cute though.
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Dak
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The Atlantic is left of center. It's the said state of affairs when not being Fox or HuffPo equals "balance". It might be the most balanced non business focused MSM outlet on the web, but that's just being the shiniest turd in the bowl.
Einherjar86
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It's pointless arguing about this. The Atlantic might publish mostly leftist pieces, but it balances this lean by publishing contrarian pieces. It acknowledges its bias, in other words. That's balanced.
CiG
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Being "balanced" is much less important than being open about your partisanship. American media outlets seem to have this strange relationship with false bipartisanship that other countries don't have.
Dak
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https://qz.com/1152461/student-loans-are-ending-for-brown-university-students/
Solid move by Brown university.
Solid move by Brown university.
Einherjar86
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It's a good headline, but I'd like more specifics in the article. Is Brown simply ending loans conducted through the university, or prohibiting students from receiving all federal loans? And what about private loans? I'd be curious to hear more.
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Einherjar86
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That doesn't answer my question. They'll replace loans in their financial aid with fellowships--but will they still allow students to apply for non-university loans?
When I applied for loans, some were through the school but others weren't.
When I applied for loans, some were through the school but others weren't.
Dak
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I assume they can't do anything about application for loans outside of the university. I understood it to mean all charges directly from the school would be covered by the school.
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Einherjar86
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I actually think it's fine for venues to be partisan, but they should be transparent about it. You're right that in America there's a certain fantasy of the nonpartisan publication that just reports "the facts."
Nobody reports "the facts," they all report the fact as filtered (or inflected, or refracted, or perceived, etc.) through a particular perspective. For what it's worth, I don't think The Atlantic poses as a bipartisan venue; but I do think it offsets its primarily leftist perspective with alternative, if not diametric, pieces. It's a way to acknowledge its partisanship, which I was conflating with being balanced, since that's the term of endearment we use when evaluating a media outlet.
But yes, the important thing is that it acknowledges its partisanship.
CiG
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Whenever I hear or see "fair and/or balanced" in conjunction with the media I get a little triggered because I'm reminded of a news outlet that is blatantly right-wing while desperate to chant a nonpartisan mantra.
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Honestly it sounds like they're going to split the net into fast, and slow lanes, like cable TV -lots of good and bad depending on who you are...protesters and political groups are worried they could be censored. Chronic masturbatators are worried it could slow down their porn -although it may speed up their porn if it proritizes the video over the ad....?...it depends on who pays more and just throws the law back to '15 if I'm correct.
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I'm skeptical of the doom and gloom scenarios about ISPs creating a billion different sub-plans to nickel and dime everyone, on the basis that there are multiple ISPs in most of the nation, but it's kind of one of those "Wait and see" things. Businesses were sued previously for violating net neutrality, not because they slowed down access to a competitor's website or charged people differently for different data usage, but because they blocked specific protocols like BitTorrent. afaik data caps were brought in as the solution to throttling heavy data use, which people also bitched about, so I imagine the people that will be fucked the hardest will be the chronic pirates, but who knows. I do know that some say that ISPs are lying when they claim the heavy-weight data users put a strain on the system fwiw.
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