Well the last 2 yeah. I love both, but people get so uptight about genres. But no one can dispute they are the most known (in the mainstream) BM bands, even if its a misconception its a well known misconception!!
And I suppose they are staple, even though lots of BM fans would complain at mentioning them, but in 20 years people will remember BM as Dani Filth burning churches, and all the actual Norweigans will be forgotten. Maybe there will be echoes of Varg, but its more of a legend than reality, and people will think "Yeah, but didn't they dress funny..." and "I heard he turns into a demon in the full moon..." Just the way the world is, based on hearsay and chinese whispers!