The World of Live Sampling

DanLights

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It´s not something I´ll pursue anytime soon but it´s psychologically haunting me for a long time, so I´ll just make a hypothetical question:

If you had a project labeled as Electronic Death metal, which means lots of traditional death metal riffing but very heavily loaded with tons of synth pads, keyboards, strings, techno beats, wierd drum fx sounds, samples etc. and wouldn´t want to go the "easy" way in just playing to a backing track. Instead YOU, the creator of the whole thing would like to take the stand as the band´s keyboardist/sampler, how would yo go about it? Gear reccomendations? go the laptop way or just preload samples and sounds and use only the keys/samplers? Of course having more than one gadget (one keyboard/midi controller and one sampler at least) is a lot cooler looking IMO than just one keyboard or less (I recently saw a post-rock which had a big fat guy on a macbook surfing facebook and banging his head to the beat while checking status updates *I mean using a macbook and nothing else, didn't even seem like he was moving much in the laptop so it looked like at the beggining of every song he pushed play on the backing track just headbanged to the beat).

I'm thinking the best way to go would be using a powerful, reliable laptop to control everything and maybe ableton live (never used it, but heard it's specially good for live situations, obviously) and one of those controller with buttons for triggering samples and some faders for doing wierd sweeps live and for extra eyecandy, and a keyboard or midi controller for normal keyboards/strings parts instead of triggering beats and samples. I would still probably use a click track to back the whole band up and have everything detailed including seques into other songs and everything.

It would also be cool for people with experience on this to use this thread to share thoughts and experiences on the subject, since I haven't seen much on this on the forum
 
I have been researching pretty much the same thing for quite awhile. Huge amounts of electronic acts use Ableton Live firstly for live track manipulation/effects/loops etc. But like you said watching someone use a computer isn't really that fun. The Roland SPD-S can take care of live sample usage it can also be used to trigger sounds from Ableton/Reason through midi (using this is kinda like drumming on a big sample pad). Additionally, an Akai MPC 1000 might be fun to use, and this would allow you to compose and play live music without doing the entire laptop thing if you wanted to avoid that. Maybe check out the Korg Kaossilator Pro as well for effects usage. I might catch some heat for this but you might even consider a combination of those and playback with Serato scratch live if you wanted to do some really crazy beat matching for your songs.

There really isn't one hard and fast way of doing this, the options are practically endless.
 
I use a laptop with a DAW and a software sampler. One track = 61-88 keys = one-three songs, depending on the amount of samples. Also on the last tour I used USB midi from the Roland X6 and regular midi from a Roland Audio2midi trigger to trig drum samples at the same time using the very same laptop. Having a bunch of gear might look cool, but damn it's so fucking boring to pack the shit. ;)

Another good thing about using a laptop is that your sounds/samples can be several gigabytes in size, depending on your hard drive. The Roland X6 has 512MB of sampling memory and while it might work well, the loading time is ridiculous compared to a laptop. And what happens in case of a power failure? bye bye samples and que the "ten minute stand up comedian" while I load the shit up again. Laptop? Battery last for two hours. NP.

Also used the same laptop and played games/watched movies in the tour bus. :)
 
In case of a power failure the whole band will shut down so I see not much difference, it´s not like the power goes back and everything is all of a sudden back to normal while your equipment isn´t.

Anyways, I actually am leaning towarsd the laptop approach, but I would still use a keyboard (as a midi controller triggering sounds from vsts from my laptop) and most likely also a controller like the Novation Launchpad or something similar (with a couple faders preferably) to use that to trigger the samples instead of the mouse in the laptop (I DESPISE laptop touchpad mouses).

But I agree with your point that a laptop is more convenient than a standalone sampler, I´ll definitely go for that. And thanks for sharing your personal experience Jocke!
 
In case of a power failure the whole band will shut down so I see not much difference, it´s not like the power goes back and everything is all of a sudden back to normal while your equipment isn´t.

How long does it take to get a sound in anything without a 5 minute loading time? ;)

No problem. It's nice to be able to use those 17 years of experience for something good. ;)
 
You can always buy a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) and keep shit like your sampler/synths/etc on it...in case the power comes back on, you don't have to reload shit, and you can play cheesy samples or whatever while the rest of the band is getting their shit correct again.