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TexunNYC

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about the two most meaningful things in this mortal realm:

POO

and

SEX

What do you most civilized folks plan to do about this? (Let me guess: send me back to Lapland where every thread is about POO and SEX)
 
this isn't my first post here, Thanatos . . . and while I've made intellectual contributions here and there, they just don't seem to have quite the impact that

POO

and

SEX

seem to have . . . I can't help it, though: I'm FOREVER a fourteen year old boy trapped in a grown woman's body :)

But, if you must . . . I'll go back to harassing the folks at the Arch Enemy board w/ Mattias Ekhlund is GOD threads . . .
 
For some odd reason I am expecting this thread to be behind something that requires a key to open...

NP: Blue Jean Cop on DVD
 
@texunnyc: i had this terrible nightmare last night where 14-y-o boys lived trapped in grown women bodies and came to my board to post new threads about poo and sex. ;)

what exactly do you feel like discussing about poo and sex? this is something i need to know before awarding you with the title of "queen of everything that is poo and sex", and merge future poo and sex (not necessarily threads about it, maybe the real thing also) into this, your contribution. :)

rahvin.
 
well, the *poo* portion of this impetus is likely relative to my massive ingestion of curried products over the past few days, coupled with some smashingly brilliant poo-related threads we've had on Lapland this week . . . the *sex* obsession? well . . . as Al Jorgenson of Ministry once said "CONNECT THE GOD DAMN DOTS"

Seriously, though -- I've been going through the Krishna's *primer* of "Bhagavad-Gita, as it is" during my morning and evening commutes this past week and really trying to examine the more base motivations of the flesh, in an attempt to synthesize a more comprehensive personal ideology while still maintaining some semblance of adherence to fundamental Hindu precepts . . .

That better? I still wanna be the Queen of All Things Sex and Poo-related, though :)
 
well, texunnyc, i'm surely interested in your findings and consideration about the most basic functions/needs of the flesh. my knowledge of the culture you mentioned is very limited, but the subject seems quite interesting. you are granted the title of supreme empress. :)

i'll try and connect the dots, but let's just go through some preliminary questions before i try to concoct a theory: why do you think people are more obsessed with sex than, say, eating pizza? and what kind of external input would you like to gather on the issue at hand? i know i have pondered over sex (heh, just, like, not during sex) in more than one occasion and more or less managed to understand its place in my own private cosmology. still, i'm curious as to the undercurrent of this, also in myself, so i'm glad for every new opinion i hear. :)

the same, alas, does not really apply to my musings on poo. :rolleyes:

@everybody: texunnyc is not a troll, at least not that i know, so stop trying to summon my magic robe of moderation. :p we're discussing sex: obviously i'm naked. :)

rahvin.
 
POOdoes not go well with SEX gee, what'd they teach you in biology class? :eek:

sorry,sorry.. I am on
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you are granted the title of supreme empress. :)

Vielen Dank (since I'm posting here at Deutsche Bank, getting paid the big bucks to act an ass!)

I think the fundamental motivations behind eating pizza (or any other culinary indulgence), and having sex are pretty much one in the same; however, I would venture a guess that the reason why more folks have a larger percentage of their energies devoted to the thoughts and activities relative to sex can be most effectively addressed when one stops to contemplate the all-pervasive EGO . . .

Eating a piece of pizza can transitorily satisfy a craving or need (just as sex can), but the satisfaction one's ego gleans from a sexual encounter can be revisited, ad infinitum, through the lovely conduit of memory. Human beings are all (at varying levels) guilty of being too externally-based, in terms of seeking positive reinforcement for our self-esteem (EGO) from others, and I'd be hard-pressed to name a more reinforcing act than granting someone privilege to your body, or them granting you privilege to theirs. This of course lends itself to deeper discussion relative to self-actualization (Abraham Maslow and the lot), which, while extremely interesting to me personally, does take us away from the general tone of things relative to this thread.


I know i have pondered over sex (heh, just, like, not during sex)

I've found pondering sex during the act to be rather self-defeating, myself . . .
 
yes, i can understand the way one's ego is... replenished with every new conquest and self-reassured through mutual acceptance in a ltr. however, i'm also empowered by positive comments on what i write, for instance (have you seen my new review over at www.hmas.org , btw? ;)), and many other acknowledgments of my skills in other fields.
they may not be as intimate as physical intercourse, but this to me just means i can graduate them on a less immediate level on the instinctual vs. rational scale: my desire to feed my ego is subconsciously triggered at first by the thought of sex, yet the more i let my opinions and beliefs have a part in this, the more i think social approval in the form of praises for my work and non-sexual performances constitutes a longer-lasting reward.

then i would mention the fact that - the way you put it - sex seems to be a very self-centred act. i can agree on this as some sort of statistical consideration about the way people behaves in general, but i for once tend to interpret sex as showing affection towards the girl (in my case) involved. not necessarily love, no, but at least an ensemble of feelings of caring and attention that are meant to signify something for the person i'm having sex with, in addition to satisfy a need of the flesh.
actually - although i'm sure freud's ghost will haunt my dreams tonight for this - i feel the projection of my needs on the emotional plane a much stronger pull than physical desire itself. it is undeniable that these exist because of the latter, otherwise i'd just feel a compelling need to write haikus :p, yet i find that being able to focus on the (slightly) more elaborate feelings is a plus for both parties.


TexunNYC said:
I've found pondering sex during the act to be rather self-defeating, myself . . .

i guess it can turn out to be rather prosaic, seeing yourself from the outside when you're having sex. supposedly, being very much involved is the key to (mutual?) satisfaction.

sorry if i shifted the topic of discussion, i'm a bit tired (and i haven't even had sex! :bah: ).

rahvin.
 
Rahvin -- read any Dawkins, by chance? Your focus on the selfish undertones of what I'd written interests me and spurs me onto other conversations relative to selfishness at the genetic level . . . while the Hindu in me is certainly aware of consciously keeping karmic balance with emanating as much positive energy out of myself as I'm taking in, the reductionistic, more analytical side of me (Dawkins, Darwin and Freud -- thanks very much!) consciously acknowledges that even the most selfless seeming act has some foundation /motivation in selfishness. It is very easy for folks to delude themselves into thinking they're acting altruistically but hyper-vigilant honesty with one's self will -- more often than not -- reveal to the contrary.

Unequivocally, there are superior means of validating ones' self to sexual liaisons but the ideas I put forth were purely hypothetical in the first place . . . for myself, everything I truly need, alpha and omega, is in me!

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of your writing . . . I admire the way you think and will check out your link . . . thanks, also, for an interesting respite from the Friday afternoon office doldrums!
 
Oh yeah, lest ye guys accuse me of trolling, here's a relevant post, all right?

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@texunnyc: forgive me if i ignore the part about metal gods. with a discussion about selfishness/altruism and one about rob halford hanging in the balance, i can't really say i need to think a lot before choosing. :p

ok, let's define the problem the way i see it. this is not really about sex anymore, but we'll get back to sex at some point in my rant (worst pick-up line ever? :D :p).
broadly speaking i tend to accept a large part of the positivists dogma: ethics are nothing more than strategies for the species to preserve itself; emotions are means to express urges in an elaborate, socially acceptable way, which in turn is again based on the need to structure our survival as individuals through the survival of a community. in this light, i am aware that i reject homicide, rape, and running naked around the iraqi embassy because these behaviours spell "failure" for my self-preservation through that of others. at least in the long run.
in much the same way i am aware that my desire to compliment someone's looks, to be kind and gentle when kissing a partner, to help others find their way through a band's complex discography, represents an attempt to find satisfaction for myself: the ultimate goal is feeling happy.

now, i could never be called a "spiritual" person, unless this is something related to alcohol, but i'm not completely materialistic either. i do think there is something more than a mechanical relationship between fulfilling one's own needs and any spark of feelings in the brain. that is to say, i have a personal approach to metaphysics as some realm of very complex, not necessarily logical relations among concepts. this is however a fully anthropic view since i am not a believer in any supernatural entity on the receiving end of my metaphysic. but enough of this: we weren't discussing my musings on life. ;)

back to the ultimate selfishness described by positivism: i'd say the model can be applied to almost all facts in life, yet at a certain point i find this to be more of a core rule that becomes almost irrelevant in the light of structured thinking.
saying that everything boils down to selfishness, or claiming that altruism as negation of the self might exist is an ontological argument. it defines the very quality of the truth in existance in a binary way: selfishness exists / altruism exists.
the relevance of such an existance in the way every single event turns out, on the other hand, is more of an epistemological issue, thus one that i expected positivism to be more interested in.
what difference does it make whether - for instance - my efforts to please my parents are deeply genuine or subconsciously born of a need to see myself as a worthy human being in their eyes, and if that in turn comes from a generalized strategy implying the young people replacing the elders by learning and mastering their skills? the fact remains that this is a more structured, more evolved form of selfishness than slitting their throat to inherit their money.
making love to someone and caring for their multi-faceted personality might hide the desire to appease one's own feelings of safety - and don't even get me started on what this means on a social level - sure, but still it represents a moral evolution of an individual thinking from the state when doing someone then going away was the norm.
we can call it an evolution in the refinement of our core values, or we can call it a fine-tuning of our selfishness so that it better fits needs that did not arose in the earlier stages of mankind's history. in any case, it fosters people's happiness, and i don't think it achieves this through deceit or dishonesty. being aware of the motives behind our action does not damn them to hell, imo, at least if they fit in every individual's system of choice.

as a side note concerning sex, i'd like to mention my personal experience (am i hearing a series of :yuk:'s here? ;)). what does the trick for me is satisfying my partner. it makes me way happier than being the object of endless attention myself. i think i can see through my (apparently) altruistic behaviour: it's just a different kind of selfishness that stems from different psychological urges in my brain. but so what? as long as the effects are (usually seen as) altruistic, i'm happy i feel this way.
this also suggests to me that, due to the variety of people's characters there are maybe countless different desires and needs - besides the basic ones - that twist and shape our "selfishness" in completely different direction, thus implying also different results. it is looking at those results that i think altruism can finally be measured.

rahvin.
 
Hit a woman. Go to her place. Tie her up. Fuck her.
Find her cat. Fuck her cat. Eat her cat. Wait for few hours. Shit her cat out and make your partner eat your leavings.

RealHazard, - real me came out.
NP: Katatonia - Teargas
 
lol, wayta turn a poo and sex thread into meaningful and verbose conversation.



btw, fuck the war