This place is about as boring as a Tarnowski lead. TALK!

Hypnos666 said:
I'm going to go ahead and put in my 2 cents...

Iced Earth is likely one of my favorite bands. Horror Show was the 1st album I got, and I even thought that album was fairly good (though at this point I look at it as their worst - the only good song on it being Dracula). Iced Earth never has been big. I don't care, they're a great band. I could care less if anyone listens to them or not. Me and my friend at this school are the only people I know of here that listen to Iced Earth, or even know who they are.

Jon is a good composer, and while he takes ideas from guitarists before him, WHO DOESN'T?! I mean, the beginnings of metal with Black Sabbath came from Blues music...then Judas Priest came from Sabbath, Iron Maiden and the thrash metal scene came from Priest, and then stuff like Iced Earth came from a mix of thrash and power metal. Deal with it, ideas are copied.

However, I feel that Jon is rather unique compared to all these "Metal" bands like Godsmack, Korn, Limp Bizkit, or Linkin Park. Fuck that, true metal could NEVER degenerate into shit like that. Iced Earth is keeping up the Metal tradition.

You are right about one thing though. I doubt the Ripper really fits in with Iced Earth's style, and unfortunately, this may cause their downfall.

Say what you will, Iced Earth is a great band and will always be one of my favorites.
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Well said. I agree with everything you said.
 
Metallica's black album where you placed The meloncholy EP. That's what went on in 91 for metallica.
Communism in many different fronts still reigns in most thought process across the globe today. I guess I was comparing present day metallica with present day communist thought. Which are both total bullshit and hard on the ear.
Ok, now im confused
 
Rottuated said:
Who was his brother? Randal Sawyver? Or who? I've never read about that.

And regarding Horror Show, Dark Saga, and Something Wicked, I think they were all great albums. Dark Saga had it's boring moments, but I haven't found a single album that I've really listened to and said to myself "This is complete dog shit."

Just about everything they've released has something for everyone. It depends on what your tastes are. But I think people need to stop comparing albums, and listen to them for what they are, and not how they are similar or different from some other album.
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Jon and Matt are brothers. Matt is married to Jons sister if I'm not mistaken.
 
Iced In Flames said:
Jon and Matt are brothers. Matt is married to Jons sister if I'm not mistaken.
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That doesn't make them brothers by blood, that makes them brothers in law.

I don't know. Didn't Jon beg him to stay? If Matt left for the sole purpose of finding the meaning of his existence, or his purpose then I don't see how Jon can be blamed for that. Jon held the record off for Matt to think (something he usually doesn't do when he feels there is a problem with a band member). So I have doubts about Jon "running him out" of the band.
 
I personally am still puzzled by Matt's decision to leave. How could 9/11 hit him harder than any of us, the fans? Who knows, he might have even lost a fan in the towers(don't tell him that). Or maybe IE's music is helping a family member of a 9/11 victim to hold on(I Died For You, anyone? Watching Over Me?). And although I didn't lose anyone, my family and I have suffered enough mental anguish AFTER 9/11, with the war and the buggings and the anti-Islamic sentiment spreading like wildfire. It surprises me that the lead singer of a rock band would feel so emotionally attached and change his life for it. Yay! Barlow's stopped singing so he can become a cop or a lawyer and send Muslims to jail!

Forgive my cynicism...
 
I partially agree. In these tragic times we need our entertainers the most. During WWII did Bob Hope stop being a comedian to go become a fire fighter, or a private in the airforce? Nope, he kept on entertaining. I wish Matt would have looked at it that way.
 
If Matt ever read these boards, no wonder why he quit. The guy quit to provide for his family. To have health insurance a steady job. I talked to him on 2 separate occasions after shows, and although he was cool as hell he did seem distant and aloof to all things metal. Read some of his old interviews. Even though Matt could sing with such emotion. Who is to say where Matt got that emotion from. What im trying to say is let's just leave the guy alone and move on.
 
icedsymphony said:
If Matt ever read these boards, no wonder why he quit. The guy quit to provide for his family. To have health insurance a steady job. I talked to him on 2 separate occasions after shows, and although he was cool as hell he did seem distant and aloof to all things metal. Read some of his old interviews. Even though Matt could sing with such emotion. Who is to say where Matt got that emotion from. What im trying to say is let's just leave the guy alone and move on.
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I am disappointed in his departure, but I agree that it's his choice, and since he's Matt fuckin' Barlow, I can respect that.
 
Hey, he's better than most vocalists are. I haven't heard it yet, but I'm definitely going to get the single as soon as possible. I'm prepared though. I know he's not going to be the same style as Barlow, but he's going to sing as damn good as he can in the style he sings. While it might not end up being a monumental album, I trust it will still be a good album.
 
No style of his own at all? That's really odd to hear; he's very disctinct from Halford. He has way more bottom-end, and a snarling edge to his voice that Rob never had. Hell, even his screams are different - it's a sort of warbling, "YAOW!" tone instead of Rob's clean "YEEEAH!" shrieks. Definitely more of a speed-metal singer; he's got that viciousness.
 
Pyrus said:
No style of his own at all? That's really odd to hear; he's very disctinct from Halford. He has way more bottom-end, and a snarling edge to his voice that Rob never had. Hell, even his screams are different - it's a sort of warbling, "YAOW!" tone instead of Rob's clean "YEEEAH!" shrieks. Definitely more of a speed-metal singer; he's got that viciousness.
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I agree completly.

And Iced In Flames, just take the Iced part out of your name all you do is come on here and put the band down and run your mouth. If you dont like Iced Earth anymore quit listening to them and go take your complaints somewhere else because I am sick of it.
 
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