To any decent keyboard players...

[gkelter]

I'm starting to play keyboard and I wanna know what kinda techniques you guys use to practice and learn new things. I don't have the money to waste on lessons and lessons probably will not teach me much about this style of keyboard anyway. I started off by learning Towards Dead End... and if anyone wants to tell me proper ways to finger the arpeggios or anything, that would be nice, I wanna start off right before I get too far into it.

If you want you can give me your AIM screen name or something so we can talk about it in more detail, if you don't mind, that is...

Thanks.

 

[spirit crusher]

what you do is, you take youre right or left hand wrap it around your penis. then move it in an up and down motion. have fun

 

[zakk_hate_me_666]

ive never tried that as a technique for key playing.

*pulls out keyboard*

 

[KenShiRo]

ok now movign up and down the keyboard, u do a C major scale like this, thumb is used on C, index finger on D, longest finger on E, then u bend your thumb under the other fingers to press F, index on G, longest on A, next finger whatever its called on B, then pinky on C, or bend the thumb under the other fingers if u wanna keep going up the scale

if that makes sense, hopfully it'll help with fingering, i only ever did grade 1 on piano and i can do the needled 24/7 intro guitar solo on my keyboard, its not 100% perfect but its very cose to perfect

i use guitar pro 4 with the keyboard display thingy to learn stuff

and dont even thinking about kissing the shadows keyboard solos

the intro to hard crew deathroll is probably a good for b uilding up your fingers, that and its bloody hard to keep it going without mistakes at full speed

 

[Hatebreeder86]

yeah.. cob is a goood way to practise easy shit. great for beginners. Try bed of razors, towards dead end.. and warheart has some extremely easy arpeggios too. Deadnight warrior is nice to play too. If not cob, then try nightwish or stratovarius stuff.

 

[DoktorShred]

if you start an arpeggio on a white note start with your index finger, if you start it on a black note start with your first finger. If your gunna play more than one octave use the finger you started with on each root note, if you play one octave you can use your pinky for the top note

Scales, my advice is most of the time you wanna use your thumbs on the root note and one other note...usually the fourth or fifth depending on whats easiest for that particular scale.

 

[Baletempest]

http://www.free-online-piano-lessons.com/

 

[bobvex]

For metal, try http://www.synthoblivion.com/

 

[Liquid Shadow]

if you start an arpeggio on a white note start with your index finger

That's very odd...what fingering do you use for the other notes with that? I have never heard of or seen that used before...

 

[Hatebreeder86]

nahh it doesnt matter that much

 

[DoktorShred]

That's very odd...what fingering do you use for the other notes with that? I have never heard of or seen that used before...

Oh ass i meant thumb Hence me saying first finger on a black note lol

 

[Entropiastrife]

I'm starting to play keyboard and I wanna know what kinda techniques you guys use to practice and learn new things. I don't have the money to waste on lessons and lessons probably will not teach me much about this style of keyboard anyway. I started off by learning Towards Dead End... and if anyone wants to tell me proper ways to finger the arpeggios or anything, that would be nice, I wanna start off right before I get too far into it.

If you want you can give me your AIM screen name or something so we can talk about it in more detail, if you don't mind, that is...

Thanks.

its not "wasting" to get lessons, and actually to play bodom shit you do need lessons, go play some the killers if you dont want to get lessons

 

[Leandro]

what you do is, you take youre right or left hand wrap it around your penis. then move it in an up and down motion. have fun

 

[Entropiastrife]

I took a few months of keyboard lessons, but I just got bored with them, the damn teacher was always complementing how good I was doing... I figured if I was doing so damn good I could learn teh crap from a book by myself.

I'm learning Downfall right now. One thing I noticed, is alot of metal keyboard players transpose their keyboards to the same tuning as the guitarist and usually there's very few black keys involved. Realising that definitely helped with learning "Wolf and Raven"

complimenting is what teachers do, because they want to encourage you to keep going and give them business, duh, teachers only dont compliment when they think you are so bad they dont even want to teach you.

and anyway, a lot of metal keyboard players dont transpose there keyboard, just the posers. thats really retarded, cause unless every song is in the same key all the time, what do you constantly transpose? you shouldnt even be playing if you cant play in the basic major and minor scales

 

[yourkiller]

ok now movign up and down the keyboard, u do a C major scale like this, thumb is used on C, index finger on D, longest finger on E, then u bend your thumb under the other fingers to press F, index on G, longest on A, next finger whatever its called on B, then pinky on C, or bend the thumb under the other fingers if u wanna keep going up the scale

as most of the advice given in this topic... WRONG! first of all the fingers... you never turn your thumb under your pinky unless it is absolutly necesarry and if you're doing the C major scale you play every C with your thumb and no other finger... so the thumb goes under the ring... and btw the fingers have numbers in playeing keyboards and it's mutch easier to tdo that....

otherwise find yourself some online lessons that somebody already wrote or ask about particular things, like this arpegio or that scale or something like that... I can't image how you might be expecting that someone could write you all the theory and technuques you need in a one single forum post?!...

Ask and you might be answer

 

[SpeLLfromHeLL]

1) DON'T USE KEYBOARD TABS
2) DON'T USE KEYBOARD TABS
3) DON'T USE KEYBOARD TABS
4) Learn theory and learn how to read music
5) add me on msn and i'll help you out wintermadness@hotmail.co.uk
6) Buy or download the Hanon exercises
7) Practice slowly and to a metronome (go's for every instrument!)
8) Don't buy a casio/yamaha
9) Don't wack up reverb and think your good

 

[TheTechnogoat]

1) DON'T USE KEYBOARD TABS
2) DON'T USE KEYBOARD TABS
3) DON'T USE KEYBOARD TABS
4) Learn theory and learn how to read music

those pretty much sum it up

 

[Entropiastrife]

Mikko Harkin, Jens Johansson and I'm sure a ton of others transpose to the same key as the guitar players in the band. Which, I hadn't realised before when I was trying to learn the songs by ear. So, I guess Jens Johansson is a poser?

Also, a teacher is supposed to correct you and well, teach you something. I don't go to a teacher to get compliments. Plus, I don't really think it's impossible to learn what I want on my own, so that's what I'll do.

they dont automatically hit the transpose button on their keyboard to make it into an easy key, they play their parts transpose their parts manually by playing in key with the guitarist, whatever key that is

 

[Fetzer]

Practise...
Learn Music theory...
And don't give shit about other player...
Well... please, don't try to play like Janne.

 

[Marshall]

find some book on how to read music, then buy Jordan Rudess' Total Keyboard Wizardry.