Tom compression, submix or separate?
- Thread starter blackcom
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jamesboyd
andy's bitch
hey blackcom,
Personally I prefer to do them seperately, because you settings will need to change from tom to tom depending on the size and tone of each tom (obviously)
The best results I've had have been leaving the toms dry (no verb, or very little) and fairly heavy compression. About 4.1 ratio and slowish attack with about 6-10db of compression, it may seem a lot but it really helps to make them pop out of the mix.
I usually filter out quite a lot on the rack toms as well.
try some heavy compression with tasteful attack and release settings (accenting the skin sound, but still letting the whole hit get through) and panning them fairly wide)
as long as the panning doesn't overlap with guitars or pads, they should cut through quite well.
hope this helps.
-j
Personally I prefer to do them seperately, because you settings will need to change from tom to tom depending on the size and tone of each tom (obviously)
The best results I've had have been leaving the toms dry (no verb, or very little) and fairly heavy compression. About 4.1 ratio and slowish attack with about 6-10db of compression, it may seem a lot but it really helps to make them pop out of the mix.
I usually filter out quite a lot on the rack toms as well.
try some heavy compression with tasteful attack and release settings (accenting the skin sound, but still letting the whole hit get through) and panning them fairly wide)
as long as the panning doesn't overlap with guitars or pads, they should cut through quite well.
hope this helps.
-j
He is assuming that youre editing the toms between hits so there is no bleed in between hits and that you miced them up well. Yeah I agree you can adjust the attack to let the skin sound come through as much as you need. But one more point. You have to hammer that drummer when he is tracking so he hits consistantly.
Colin
Colin
jamesboyd
andy's bitch
if you've been careful during tracking, and the toms have been hit well it shouldn't be a problem. Obviuosly those are just settings off the top of my head, but in order to really getting a nice 'pop' and 'smack' you sometimes have to really slam them.
Just make sure the edits are as tight as possible, and that the hits fade in and out, if you notice anything coming through at the beginning or end of a roll just replace the first and last hits with a cleaner version from another section.
watch the master compression when compressing the toms, the interaction of the two compressors is more likely to cause problems in the mix with sudden bleeding from the toms, than the tom compression alone.
hope that helps.
Just make sure the edits are as tight as possible, and that the hits fade in and out, if you notice anything coming through at the beginning or end of a roll just replace the first and last hits with a cleaner version from another section.
watch the master compression when compressing the toms, the interaction of the two compressors is more likely to cause problems in the mix with sudden bleeding from the toms, than the tom compression alone.
hope that helps.
