Yes, you do win that prize - how very tolerant of you! For a brief moment there, I though perhaps you had taken complete leave of you senses, Norsemaiden!
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Yes, you do win that prize - how very tolerant of you! For a brief moment there, I though perhaps you had taken complete leave of you senses, Norsemaiden!
Hm...I see what you're saying and I more or less agree. I think that if you are born with a penis you are a man, and you need to accept that. You can wear a skirt or play with dolls or do whatever girly things you want, but you are male.
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Perhaps you've been watching animals playing. The gay sex comes when you aren't watching.
The point is that there is evidence that it may be a recessive trait that will be passed on by their hetero siblings. Obviously homosexuality isn't entirely genetic. Thank you for derailing my thread.
This is a reasonable opinion. After all, science works differently for insects.
Yes, you're right. This was the first ever incident of anit-gay violence, and we've all overreacted.
People are getting fucked with for being gay all the time. This wasn't an isolated incident, it was part of a major trend that needs to be reversed.
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This offends me for multiple reasons:
A) Homosexuality is not a choice
B) It's hard to live with being murdered
C) This is the sort of attitude that has allowed homophobes to suppress gay people forever.
Obviously they're gonna be made fun of. But being beaten up or stabbed? That's not okay.
Fair enough. I'm beginning to think you're an idiot myself.
Please explain what these "cutters" are
What?
First off, the girls were probably straight. I don't know if you're aware of this, but popular media has basically made it okay for straight girls to act like lesbians publicly for fun.
Such as people with sexual hangups being killed. If you don't care, feel free to stfu and gtfo (I'd explain what that means but Norsemaiden would yell at me). No one's forcing you to debate this.
My opinion exactly.
But apparently you don't know 2 straight girls making out for fun when you see it.
Black on white violence = vastly overestimated. A white kid is far less likely to be targeted for violence by blacks based on his race than a gay kid is to be targeted for violence by straight kids based on his orientation. Far, far less likely.
Gays don't beat people up for being straight. Don't be ridiculous.
And...don't go where? To school? To work? Outside? It's not like there's a special "straight people hood" where gays love to go and hang around, tempting morally stronger straight people to beat them up.
Well fuck them. It doesn't do them any harm.
I think the point is that he feels more comfortable in a skirt. That's the entire point of this discussion, actually.
You're right. This is the evil of transgender people - tricking straight people into checking them out and then surprising them, causing lasting psychological scarring.
How do they have to deal with his problems? It's not a problem for him, and it shouldn't be one for them. Should we now ban people who are hard to look at (fat people, people with acne, etc) from schools because they force other people to deal with their problems?
I'm sure that's what he wants - everyone to stare at him. These people just want to live the way they feel comfortable. No one feels comfortable with everyone staring at them.
It really is.
You're entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that your opinion is really shitty, ignorant, and self-serving.
No, they aren't. People steal and commit violence out of necessity. The number of people who do those things for pleasure is definitely lower than the number of sexual deviants (1/10 people are gay).
Beating people up = not a hang-up.
What do you mean it's not entirely true? How do they harm people?
So will ugly people. Should they be persecuted?
Rape used to be the natural form of procreation. Should we go back to that too? Seriously, humans can no longer operate on instincts. It's what we call "civilization"
Actually very different.
And now you advocate killing trannys with a shovel.
No harm done, you just can't get a job. No biggie.
Actually, yes. Or at least until they no longer react violently.
"pay the price?" what price? It's not like they're being asked to dress like women too.
You're an idiot.
However, I agree that medically transitioning is weird.
Well, you're officially invited not to participate in this discussion.
Left handed scissors: they exist
Nobody kills left handed people.
That is how I feel - it's their money, it's not hurting anyone, so why not.
Thank you.
Basically, yeah. At this point, we don't need to evolve, we really don't need more people, and so homosexuality has a big advantage - population control.
I agree. Except for the part about it being genetic. I doubt that. But maybe BMWG can give us some more sciencey facts.
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Specifically, the racist side.
Actually, it really does. Because maybe we can stop people from getting killed for that reason. Are you saying that we should let lynching happen because people also slip on bath tiles?
You might be surprised. A brief search on Wikipedia gets some of the high profile incidents. For each one here, there are thousands more that didn't make the news.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Victims_of_anti-LGBT_hate_crimes
Unless you're a transgender yourself, you have no fucking clue and are just making shit up.
If so, those people are idiots, as he isn't treating them at all.
How? In what way? He has no special needs. He's not a wheelchair kid that needs someone to watch him all day.
Missing the point that I explained earlier. Well played.
Specifically, 10%. A pretty significant fraction there.
Bullshit. If you actually did you wouldn't automatically recoil from transgender people.
When did this happen?
How is anyone else affected?
THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO SHIT! ALL HE WANTS IS TO WEAR A FUCKING SKIRT! NO ONE HAS TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL EXCEPT LEAVE HIM ALONE!
^ I've never seen so much quoting.
And Razoredge:
You strike me as the typical kind of narrow-minded person who will see something they do not like, and continue to keep looking at it.
And Razoredge:
You strike me as the typical kind of narrow-minded person who will see something they do not like, and continue to keep looking at it.
It was almost trancelike. I lost 10 minutes and when I woke up I was foaming at the mouth.
Oh my god was that a terrible piece of work. You picked line for line apart which totally eliminated the meaning of my post in its entirety. Talk about lame and not putting effort into the proper place. You cant even present your case so you go for little snippets and smart personal remarks. Are you spinless or just cant put you own scenerio together to represent your ideals?Its simple
a white boy isnt going to get through the hood in one piece, so he doesnt go there
if your a boy and ware a dress to school or put the moves on a straight boy.... guess what ? you might just get your ass handed to you..... so how about growing a brain and being practical about your personal problems and deal with what you were born with rather than making the rest of the world deal it.
It was good to see you were as aware of what attention whoring is as I am, thanks for the validation of my point.
stealing and killing is only done out of need ? then it must be they felt they needed to kill a sexually confused individual, so I guess its OK then ?
I dont validate it but my point was that everyone is paying the price for whatever went wrong with a tiny group of people and the origional thing that went wrong was somebody was sexually confused.... every problem begins somewhere but current society wants to deal with the responce not the origional irresponsible action.
Once again I dont validate violence but being as a few want to try to twist nature and use it as a crutch for some kind of validation... I hope everyone is aware that else where in nature weak links in the herd/pack/pride are weeded out one way or the other and have a short life span. So it is possible that exclusional reactions to such individuals is also natural. This is why normal people should not have to pay the price for reacting naturally... Hey if you want to play the natural card leave it in for the whole hand.
Cant get a job ? Guess you made a bad decision, decisions have a consequence
Yes it is a old and well know fact that if someone steps out of line around the gay communities in NYC that they get the total crap beat out of them. Once again decisions and consequences
Why no responce to the respect problems I had with a few gays ? Hmm ? Lame !
I in 10 are gay ? Im calling BS and leave it to politically correct propaganda. Theres no doubt recent popular trends toward being gay may be increasing this but then thats throwing the natural card out the window or further validating the attention whoring or personal idenity crisis run astray in recent times or if its "popular media has made it OK"
Thus bringing the plain old perverted issue to the table, theres a wild card that is a debate in itself... but this is about transgenders.... so I suppose they are 1 in 10 too... or soon to be when bleeding hearts and the media along with gay propagenda get done.I am glad to hear animals resolve their gays issues behind closed doors, or as you say when no ones looking.... perhaps johnny should give this a try and avoid the potential black eye ?
This whole subject is amusing due to the fact that I am only expressing the side of how society and people naturally react to such situations but no one wants to hear it. The only opinion of mine in here is that this has no place in our school systems and being crammed down the throats of our kids. I could care less what gays or transgenders do out in the real world. Besides look at all that is learned about by kids on the internet and attention seeking media today, its most likely why you are aware of transgender issues in the first place, so everything is there to help the understanding of what goes wrong with some individuals and relieve what you call ignorance..... yet you need "im not talking to anyone" days in school, and want to put the burden on communities and school systems. All that is finding things to make big issues out of. This is why I have said that less of it thrown up in peoples faces would go along ways.
Bob _______ was gay when we were in school and he was a friend of mine... not once was he beaten or picked on... not once did he get up in our face... not once was there any big hoopla about him what so ever. Our sociol studies teacher was a lesbian, once again no issues and Im talking the early 70's. So actually your generation is failing miserably and hard to give much respect too because you have allowed yourselfs to be caught in the media/reality show garbage which makes big deals out of little things
Other well thought and expressed view points welcomed
and you strike me as having proplems with focus, I'll be awaiting your well though and represented views on this problem as it pertains to thousands of years of sociol behavior. Or is that too broad for you and perhaps you want to focus on something you dont like ?
thus explaining why you focused on me not all of the issues surrounding the problem
I suppose this is where I'm supposed to give the -10 or "failure" thingymagigy
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Its simple
a white boy isnt going to get through the hood in one piece, so he doesnt go there
if your a boy and ware a dress to school or put the moves on a straight boy.... guess what ? you might just get your ass handed to you..... so how about growing a brain and being practical about your personal problems and deal with what you were born with rather than making the rest of the world deal it.
It was good to see you were as aware of what attention whoring is as I am, thanks for the validation of my point.
stealing and killing is only done out of need ? then it must be they felt they needed to kill a sexually confused individual, so I guess its OK then ?
I dont validate it but my point was that everyone is paying the price for whatever went wrong with a tiny group of people and the origional thing that went wrong was somebody was sexually confused.... every problem begins somewhere but current society wants to deal with the responce not the origional irresponsible action.
Once again I dont validate violence but being as a few want to try to twist nature and use it as a crutch for some kind of validation... I hope everyone is aware that else where in nature weak links in the herd/pack/pride are weeded out one way or the other and have a short life span. So it is possible that exclusional reactions to such individuals is also natural. This is why normal people should not have to pay the price for reacting naturally... Hey if you want to play the natural card leave it in for the whole hand.
Cant get a job ? Guess you made a bad decision, decisions have a consequence
Yes it is a old and well know fact that if someone steps out of line around the gay communities in NYC that they get the total crap beat out of them. Once again decisions and consequences
Why no responce to the respect problems I had with a few gays ? Hmm ? Lame !
I in 10 are gay ? Im calling BS and leave it to politically correct propaganda. Theres no doubt recent popular trends toward being gay may be increasing this but then thats throwing the natural card out the window or further validating the attention whoring or personal idenity crisis run astray in recent times or if its "popular media has made it OK"
I am glad to hear animals resolve their gays issues behind closed doors, or as you say when no ones looking.... perhaps johnny should give this a try and avoid the potential black eye ?
This whole subject is amusing due to the fact that I am only expressing the side of how society and people naturally react to such situations but no one wants to hear it. The only opinion of mine in here is that this has no place in our school systems and being crammed down the throats of our kids. I could care less what gays or transgenders do out in the real world. Besides look at all that is learned about by kids on the internet and attention seeking media today, its most likely why you are aware of transgender issues in the first place, so everything is there to help the understanding of what goes wrong with some individuals and relieve what you call ignorance..... yet you need "im not talking to anyone" days in school, and want to put the burden on communities and school systems. All that is finding things to make big issues out of. This is why I have said that less of it thrown up in peoples faces would go along ways.
Bob _______ was gay when we were in school and he was a friend of mine... not once was he beaten or picked on... not once did he get up in our face... not once was there any big hoopla about him what so ever. Our sociol studies teacher was a lesbian, once again no issues and Im talking the early 70's. So actually your generation is failing miserably and hard to give much respect too because you have allowed yourselfs to be caught in the media/reality show garbage which makes big deals out of little things
Other well thought and expressed view points welcomed
I made my opinion clear in the OP.
Please prove this (only asking because I know you can't).
Wearing a dress to school =/= coming on to someone.
Well, yes, it's attention whoring. By straight people. And thus it has no relevance to this thread.It was good to see you were as aware of what attention whoring is as I am, thanks for the validation of my point.
Theft and violence are not hang-ups or psychoses, they are actions.
What fucking price?
How so?
Humans stopped being a pack/herd a couple thousand years ago, rendering this point illogical and irrelevant.
It's natural. That doesn't mean it's good.
I refuse to believe that killing someone for being gay is acting naturally.
The bad decision being dressing how you feel comfortable. Self expression that doesn't harm others should not be punished.
Are you saying gay people get beat up? Or straight people?
Because if it's gay people, I fail to see how this isn't a bad thing. And if it's straight people, I doubt this.
If someone fucks with you, you have the right to tell them to fuck off, and to defend yourself if they attack you. End of story.
After some research I have concluded that the 10% claimed by many LGBT rights groups is an exaggeration. However, they do form a significant percentage of the population.
No.
Nobody pretends to be gay because it's cool. Don't be an idiot.
Bigot.
Except that you seem to be expressing the opinions of a group of people generally known as "ignorant bigoted rednecks"
If the violence is in our school system (and it is) then the solution needs to be there.
Thank you for finally (sorta) answering the question posed at the beginning of the thread.
Actually, no. People do not inform themselves on these issues, instead they spout bullshit like certain other people I could name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_silence
Inform yourself before spouting again plz
Yes, well, they do have a burden to protect their students.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people
This happened recently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_"Larry"_King
This is what gay people want. Why can't you seem to grasp that?
Blame us. Good call. Because gay people from your childhood were all fine. Every single one. No harassment or anything.
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I find it amusing that razoredge can't spell the word 'social' correctly when he's lecturing about social issues.
Or maybe realize that that was a joke? Your call.
That too. Part of the "intelligent and mature" thing is making an effort to spell things correctly.
Listen Mummys.... I have never been able to spell for shit, it does not bother me one bit but good job focusing on the problems.... lame
weareinflames, do you have some problem responding or applying yourself to an issue without using the segmenting of someones post so as it reads differently ? I didnt even waste my time reading it because its a twist of everything and your tiny responces have no value. Learn to apply yourself.
How do you know those two girls were straight and even if so I believe their very actions are significant to this issue of people publicly throwing sexuality in everyones face all the time.
How do you feel that my example of the Judas Priest/suicide issue is nothing along the same lines of decideing that every transexual is going to get killed ? Actually I may have that wrong, the Priest issue might have been one of those mass school shootings and Ozzy might have been the suicide issue. Been along time and I forget but then, you prolly have no idea what Im even refering to do ya ?
Why have you not responded to my few incidences of being harressed by gays ? How much experience have you yourself had out in the big world ?
With your deep concern for this, am I to assume that you have a transgender in your school that is about to be killed so you have experience in this area and therefore know for a fact that all our school systems need to be educated on the not killing of transgenders ?
That should keep it simple for you and maybe you will have more than a quick cliche' answer... if you have any depth to your thoughts at all.
weareinflames, do you have some problem responding or applying yourself to an issue without using the segmenting of someones post so as it reads differently ? I didnt even waste my time reading it because its a twist of everything and your tiny responces have no value. Learn to apply yourself.
How do you know those two girls were straight and even if so I believe their very actions are significant to this issue of people publicly throwing sexuality in everyones face all the time.
How do you feel that my example of the Judas Priest/suicide issue is nothing along the same lines of decideing that every transexual is going to get killed ? Actually I may have that wrong, the Priest issue might have been one of those mass school shootings and Ozzy might have been the suicide issue. Been along time and I forget but then, you prolly have no idea what Im even refering to do ya ?
Why have you not responded to my few incidences of being harressed by gays ? How much experience have you yourself had out in the big world ?
With your deep concern for this, am I to assume that you have a transgender in your school that is about to be killed so you have experience in this area and therefore know for a fact that all our school systems need to be educated on the not killing of transgenders ?
That should keep it simple for you and maybe you will have more than a quick cliche' answer... if you have any depth to your thoughts at all.
Why does it matter? You said you went to see a band play. I'm guessing the the band was either pretty awful, or you have an incredibly short attention span if the act of two people making out can attract your attention so easily. I'm only guessing that you glanced over at them directly more than a few times if it really bothered you that much - if so, just another example of what I was saying earlier. If you don't like what you're seeing then don't continue on looking. And once again, explain how this example relates at all to the apparent negative of transgender or homosexuality?
That is a completely different issue, and they are completely unrelated.
If I remember correctly the issue you're speaking of is with two kids who willingly committed suicide while they were listening to Judas Priest at the time. Metal was and still is a style of music generally frowned upon by mainstream society, and back then especially because of it's "Satanic" themes and whatever. They were looking to say that this sort of music influenced a suicidal behavior as well as others. These kids killed themselves on their own, not because of the music.
Here, we are talking about the common harrassment and unnecessary abuse that many transgender/homosexuals endure from society. There have been A LOT of cases of this and even many where murder has been the end result. And why? Because of the sole fact that they were either homosexual or transgender. Why do you think it is so hard for many to be open and admit to a lifestyle like this? I'm not saying only bad things happen to them, but they generally aren't accepted by most people and usually when they haven't done anything to deserve this treatment.
Should I even bother pointing out anything here? I'm sure it's all too obvious.
You are also responding to each point separately, you're just not using quotes. So stop being an idiot. Also, if you can't bothered to read my response, then gtfo.
Were you paying attention? It's become completely accepted for straight girls to act gay for fun in public.
Because it's completely random and not connected.
They were both suicide.
I did, you idiot. You didn't read my post.
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I must admit that this is a very weird argument and I think I totally lost track of what's going on here. razoredge, could you please state once again what exactly your opinion on homosexuals/transgenders and how they should be treated are?
First - I know transgender it is a crossing of wires so to speak during the development process inside the womb and so is some homosexuality. So I dont apply to the old ideas that all people can avoid it after the fact. But I recogonize it for what it is and that is a mutation. The gay community would have us believe differently. Im not one to throw such flaws in peoples face but the gay community has made issue of throwing themselves in our face, so I'm calling a spade a spade, and saying they have to deal with it... not me, got my own problems
None the less they deserve fair treatment as long as they carry on thier lives in an acceptable manor. Which many do. Then I believe there are those that do not carry on in an acceptable manor and want to get in everyones face over their blight or as I gave examples of the attention whoring.
I also dont believe they are finacially repressed and Im sure most make far more money than I do, so Im not going worry about their "troubles". I also feel the same way about the angry teary eyed or feminazi, extreme side of the womans rights thing... as do most working class women.
This country is loaded with dual income families whose women have higher incomes than the men.... so yea, most of us dont see what all the noise is about including the women.
This also applies to successful or hard working blacks. Many have spoken of the attitude and behavior of others. Doesnt mean problems dont still exist but that is a huge topic and way beyond the depth of the surface coat of paint anyones willing to look at.
Now we have the same thing going on with transgender and/or gays where some just go about their lives and others want to make lots of noise or a big scene
I believe big scenes create more problems than they do good.
So my stance is sit down, shut up and get to work. In other words get out of our face, your making fools of yourselves. There are people of all types that are having problems in our country and these need to be addressed as one people, not segregated into these silly trivial sub groups.
The saying one bad apple spoils the whole bunch does have a certain amount of value. Yet everyone still clings to the extreme.... why?... cause they want to get up in everyones face = making trouble. Then of course our media wants to run with it.
We have a gay couple that live down the road a few miles. They keep to themselves, no one bothers them.... but they do live a strange life. There is issues there. The are lazy. Dont mow the lawn, its all brush now after nearly 30 years, dont shovel their driveway and park in the road. The fem half possibly a transgender doesnt come out of the house and few occurances over the decades of siteings reveiled a very sickly person. I dont know whats going on there but its probably/hopefully not the norm.
First there are forum rules, so I suggest you grow up and abide by them.
Then you are breaking down what I say into tiny sentences you want to focus on so it appears what Im saying is not what Im saying and throwing in immatue comments... not presenting a case.
Who says carrying on in public is "acceptable" a bunch of teenagers ? Just one example of your failure to see more than 5 ft. and present anything valuable for consideration.
Keep trying but so far not worth the effort.
Why does it matter? You said you went to see a band play. I'm guessing the the band was either pretty awful, or you have an incredibly short attention span if the act of two people making out can attract your attention so easily. I'm only guessing that you glanced over at them directly more than a few times if it really bothered you that much - if so, just another example of what I was saying earlier. If you don't like what you're seeing then don't continue on looking. And once again, explain how this example relates at all to the apparent negative of transgender or homosexuality?
That is a completely different issue, and they are completely unrelated.
If I remember correctly the issue you're speaking of is with two kids who willingly committed suicide while they were listening to Judas Priest at the time. Metal was and still is a style of music generally frowned upon by mainstream society, and back then especially because of it's "Satanic" themes and whatever. They were looking to say that this sort of music influenced a suicidal behavior as well as others. These kids killed themselves on their own, not because of the music.
Here, we are talking about the common harrassment and unnecessary abuse that many transgender/homosexuals endure from society. There have been A LOT of cases of this and even many where murder has been the end result. And why? Because of the sole fact that they were either homosexual or transgender. Why do you think it is so hard for many to be open and admit to a lifestyle like this? I'm not saying only bad things happen to them, but they generally aren't accepted by most people and usually when they haven't done anything to deserve this treatment.
Should I even bother pointing out anything here? I'm sure it's all too obvious.
You are also making your own opinions on what my point is because you feel your views are threatened. example : this is what you return --> now my buddies band sucks ? and all I did was stared at those girls ? Neither was the case, it was just an example I could draw from recently which shows some of the non sence going on today. Which expresses how I feel about these issues. But you turn it into a peronal attack... why... because no one is supposed to present a different angle or larger overview of these problems ? and/or what might be causing the problems ?
The metal/suicide thing - I presented it as an example of the dramatizing that goes on and made that apparent when I did. A group of nannys decided that kids listening to metal would start offing themselves. In this case we have the same situation where everyone is assuming that all transgenders are going to be murdered.... unless we straighten out everyones head. So it is very relevent and very much nonsense. Obviously everyone is not going to commit suicide and everyone is not going to kill trannys. So if I go by the same assumptions you want to allow me, I could also ask - do you feel teenage suicide is not a problem ? But see... Im smarter than that and offer people the benefit of the doubt.
There are two problems here that bother me the most when it comes to this issue and our school systems.
First - Is my opinion that if a transgender does not look for trouble this could be avoided. I have presented that more than enough times and its just a fact of life. So many examples apply. People have always had natural responces to whatever, some more than others and teenagers are a highly violatile group. Here we have two extremes, there is responsibility on both sides... not in the middle.
Second - Adminstration and faculty as well as students in a school have got to be aware of potentially explosive situations, yet they allow things to escalate until its too late. In my scenerio - isnt anyone aware that Johnny might be headed for some serious rejection and in fact asking for trouble ? then after the fact, wasnt anybody aware that a peticular clique of boys very well might react ?
The entire clique thing in schools has always pissed me off. Faculty and adm. are always aware that they exist and treat outsiders of all kinds like shit, yet they never do a freakin thing about it. In fact it almost seems they endorse it. Then after the bomb goes off and the community reacts, they start back pedeling, play stupid and decide to expose all the kids to things they already know and dont need to waste their time on as well a new "strict" regulations..... all because of the actions and reactions of the few.
In this scenerio I would propose to put dress codes back into schools and everyone can wear the same cloths. This would mean johnny would not be able to make the mistake and the cliques can not start their nasty hazing because whats her name does not wear the fancy fasionable expensive cloths like my mommy and daddy buy me. ect. ect. ect.
Many children are sickenly spoiled today and it creates these problems and these problems do not belong in our school systems.
This thread has been derailed. Apologies. Feel free to read the OP and respond without reading through.
You know this? Interesting. Because science is still working on that. You might want to let them know.
I would remind you that evolution is based on such mutations. Genetic variation might be a better term.
Just between you and me, they're conspiring to turn all straight people gay.
A society has a duty to protect it's citizens. Gay people are citizens of our society, and so society has a responsibility to protect them. Instead, society has ignored them, forcing them to remain silent, and subjected them to harassment and violence.
Acceptable to who? Are you saying that gay people are fine as long as they pretend to be straight?
Attention whoring straight people, to be specific...
Are you a hobo? Because that wouldn't be a fair comparison. However, LGBT people are more likely to be homeless, more likely to be fired, and less likely to be hired.
Right...the faggonazis.
This isn't a debate about feminism. Stop making irrelevant comparisons.
Again irrelevant.
No, this is not a valid comparison.
Like the civil rights movement, man. Those uppity my pals shoulda just shut up and sat in the back of the bus, but instead they had to go all whining and complaining. We didn't lynch that many of them.
This is the attitude that allowed Hitler to take power. Are you aware of that?
Actually, because they aren't all having the same problem, you do need to separate them, since there's no blanket solution for homophobia, poverty, and crime.
But not here, where it's yet another irrelevant observation.
Oh, yes, the media loves to cover gay rights, as it's such a popular issue with the conservative viewers that make up about half of the audience.
All gay people are like that, I'm telling you!
First off, I haven't taken anything you said out of context in a way that made you seem (more) like an idiot.
Second, I made my views clear in the OP that it seems you didn't bother to read.
The media, actually. By being willing to show it on TV, in movies, magazines, etc.
These young whippersnappers! Going about with their low pants and baggy shirts! Back in the fifties we respected our elders, dagnabit!
You've been off topic the entire thread. I asked what your views on transgender was. While you offhandedly mentioned that you didn't give a fuck, you've mostly ranted about how gay people should be ignored and how they're forcing their problems on everyone else.
No, actually, we have statistical evidence showing that lgbt people are far more likely to be attacked, harassed, murdered, depressed, or commit suicide.
Transgender kids are not walking around shouting "I'm a faggot, beat me up!" What you call "getting in someone's face" is what I call "not hiding shit" Think about how often heterosexual teenagers express their sexuality in public - hugging, kissing, every 10 seconds in conversation, in the way they dress, etc. If a gay kid did that, you'd call it "getting in your face."
He's not wearing a skirt to get guys, he's wearing it because he feels comfortable wearing it. The point is not that people should hang out with him, it's that they shouldn't beat him up.
What are they supposed to do? "No, you go hang out with that guy"
...and we're off topic again.
Not really, then Johnny would want to wear the girls clothes. You really don't seem to understand the concept here, but it's okay because you're completely off topic anyways.
That's all gay kids are - spoiled. A good asskicking is what they need.
No, Im not off topic. Most things are just much bigger than the surface near sited people see. I've been going over what causes these problems and similiar closely related issues and you still cant make a solid presentation of your own but are good at making very long posts that say nothing. So there is another one I didnt bother reading. Even your first post shows you have no idea how to evaluate things for yourself or make a reasonable presentation of your thoughts and observations.
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