I'll soon be trying to record two amps at the same time (same guitar goes into both). What I want to know is how you would deal with the eventual bleeding both will have on the other. 
Two amps in the same room.
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Kazrog
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Seriously, considering the directivity of a SM-57 and it's sensitivity (this is no condenser), the volume of the amp in front of it and the short distance between the mic and the cab, I would not be worried about any bleeding... Maybe don't put them too close, just in case, but you should be fine...
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DracWell said:One SM57 and a condenser on each.
You're in for some troubles
I tried this combination, thinking I would get a more natural sound, more like the one I hear when I'm in the room, but it really didn't work (I ended up losing definition), and I had to deal with a lot of phasing issues, so I gave up... To quote our master and guide (what is this place ? a sect or what ;-)) : "Don't over complicate things". That would be my advice here (especially if you want to have 2 different amps for each part), but hey you do what you want . And you might end up getting a great sound, so please tell us how it went, I'm curious about it !
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Hopkins-WitchfinderGeneral said:
Genius! I have used a similar technique often to isolate sounds. I love low tech McGuyver style recording tactics!
Kazrog
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re-amping is one way to go, sure... but there are some cases in which it's not the best plan. for instance if you need to combine sounds from multiple amps/cabs to one track for each performance...such as when recording to 2" and you don't have the free tracks, of if your DAW computer just doesn't have the juice to keep all those tacks running.... if you quad track and use two amps per pass.. that's 8 tracks.... and if you reamped it would be 12 (adding the 4 D.I. tracks)
and what if you used 5 amps and cabinets and quad tracked that, eh? that's exactly what we did on Testament's "Low" album.. and here's the pic to prove it:
two mesa cabs and an older boogie cab, one marshall cab, and a fender combo (that was added in for clean tones only). that's Eric Peterson to the left and 2 guests who stopped by, friends of Eric and Chuck that i didn't know. as you can see we built an "iso-fortress" of sorts using gobos, acoustic panels, foam, and the band's old Souls Of Black backdrop
what amps did we use with all those cabs you ask?
we used one of the dual-rectifiers, the mark IV, the Bogner Ecstacy, and one of the Marshalls. there was also a Soldano on hand for cutting solos, which is exactly what i was doing in the pic.
the pics were taken by me and Eric at Studio D in Sausalito during the "Low" sessions in early 1994.
and what if you used 5 amps and cabinets and quad tracked that, eh? that's exactly what we did on Testament's "Low" album.. and here's the pic to prove it:
two mesa cabs and an older boogie cab, one marshall cab, and a fender combo (that was added in for clean tones only). that's Eric Peterson to the left and 2 guests who stopped by, friends of Eric and Chuck that i didn't know. as you can see we built an "iso-fortress" of sorts using gobos, acoustic panels, foam, and the band's old Souls Of Black backdrop
what amps did we use with all those cabs you ask?
we used one of the dual-rectifiers, the mark IV, the Bogner Ecstacy, and one of the Marshalls. there was also a Soldano on hand for cutting solos, which is exactly what i was doing in the pic.
the pics were taken by me and Eric at Studio D in Sausalito during the "Low" sessions in early 1994.
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James?
are those books or like wood blocks holding up the rack units on top of the Mark IV? If so very McGuvyer ha ha. Wow please send all used old gear you no longer need to me ha ha
are those books or like wood blocks holding up the rack units on top of the Mark IV? If so very McGuvyer ha ha. Wow please send all used old gear you no longer need to me ha ha
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Why can't you pros make it easy for us to duplicate your sounds!James Murphy said:re-amping is one way to go, sure... but there are some cases in which it's not the best plan. for instance if you need to combine sounds from multiple amps/cabs to one track for each performance...such as when recording to 2" and you don't have the free tracks, of if your DAW computer just doesn't have the juice to keep all those tacks running.... if you quad track and use two amps per pass.. that's 8 tracks.... and if you reamped it would be 12 (adding the 4 D.I. tracks)
and what if you used 5 amps and cabinets and quad tracked that, eh? that's exactly what we did on Testament's "Low" album.. and here's the pic to prove it:
two mesa cabs and an older boogie cab, one marshall cab, and a fender combo (that was added in for clean tones only). that's Eric Peterson to the left and 2 guests who stopped by, friends of Eric and Chuck that i didn't know. as you can see we built an "iso-fortress" of sorts using gobos, acoustic panels, foam, and the band's old Souls Of Black backdrop
what amps did we use with all those cabs you ask?
we used one of the dual-rectifiers, the mark IV, the Bogner Ecstacy, and one of the Marshalls. there was also a Soldano on hand for cutting solos, which is exactly what i was doing in the pic.
the pics were taken by me and Eric at Studio D in Sausalito during the "Low" sessions in early 1994.
Most of us have the code of:
"Use one high gain amp and record 4 tracks"
Man. Blending 5 different amps and cabs is just overkill. But then 'Low' sounded excellent, but yet it is overkill. But it sounds great, yet is is overkill, but it sounds great...
What was the setup for "The Gathering" then? :Spin:
Kenny Lee
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James Murphy said:
That's a killer set up ya'll had there James. I'm now doing something similar with Krank head Marshall cab and a little Crate combo! Using a Little Labs (S.T.D.) splitter box and some moving van company blankets (nice and thick) carpet foam(the stuff underneath your carpet), and a make shift fort I made with 2x4's! Oneside Krank/Marshall & Crate/ the otherside Krank/MArshall and Pod XT Pro.
Yea, what was the setup for The Gathering? I like that tone better than Low's. Oh, actually, I like "First Strike STILL Deadly" much better than the other 2 albums, how did they do that?
Kazrog
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don't know about FSSD, as i wasn't around. Low actually has a better guitar sound than The Gathering, but The Gathering was mixed much nicer and the guitars stand out more thanks to Andy's hands on the EQs and compressors.DURBANS said:
if andy had mixed Low, i don't think there would be any doubt as to which album had a better guitar sound.
