I'm only using my ssl 4000e clone atm, but I'm planning on getting a 1176 2ch clone. If I want to use it on different channels (snare, bass, vocals) and print, will I have to align it, or will cubase compensate for it?
Using outboard gear with cubase
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digitaldeath
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Personally I don't use Cubase, but I'm sure Reaper has a plugin to measure the round trip from the audio interface -> outboard -> audio interface and compensate accordingly. I'm sure there has to be an equivalent solution for Cubase. Sorry I can't be of any more help.
In a related note, can you easily use a 2ch/stereo 1176 on mono sources? Is there some channel selector switch?
In a related note, can you easily use a 2ch/stereo 1176 on mono sources? Is there some channel selector switch?
botus99
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Cubase has an alignment button (mine's 1.32ms if I remember right for what its worth). For some reason I've never been able to mixdown with it though, so I always have to use Voxengo Recorder on whichever track its needed on
You just send the instrument to one of the channels. In cubase you can setup external effects. I have an rme ff800. Lets say one channel is output channel 6, the other is 7. There it is: two Mono channels.
Anyone else knows about cubase latency compensation?
Anyone else knows about cubase latency compensation?
You can align all outboard effects in cubase, but right now I'm using only the ssl clone in real time. How do I know how much I need to to align the tracks?
i use a lot of outboard in cubase and it works fine. cubase has a measuring function when you insert them.
its all documented in the manual.
works fine. i have ssl 4k eqs, ssl dynamic sections, buscomp, an la2a and other stuff. its all automatically aligned (i think cubase sends out a dirac impulse and measures the latency.)
its all documented in the manual.
works fine. i have ssl 4k eqs, ssl dynamic sections, buscomp, an la2a and other stuff. its all automatically aligned (i think cubase sends out a dirac impulse and measures the latency.)
botus99
Microphone Assassin
Press F4 (Bring up the VST Connections page)
Connect your hardware to a empty input/output slot of your interface
Route it in your VST Connections (and name it if you want)
Right click it and measure the delay
Bam, its in your plugins menu under "External FX"
Connect your hardware to a empty input/output slot of your interface
Route it in your VST Connections (and name it if you want)
Right click it and measure the delay
Bam, its in your plugins menu under "External FX"
I do this all the time. Set up an external effect in the VST connections.
Then measure the latency with a button. Cubase does all the adjustments for you automatically.
I don't print them unless I have to. I mix and such through them no problem. I typically will do recall sheets. I may start printing them soon for archiving so I can recall a mix months later without having to worry about having access to that same piece of gear. Or I will print them if I want to use the same gear on multiple tracks.
Then measure the latency with a button. Cubase does all the adjustments for you automatically.
I don't print them unless I have to. I mix and such through them no problem. I typically will do recall sheets. I may start printing them soon for archiving so I can recall a mix months later without having to worry about having access to that same piece of gear. Or I will print them if I want to use the same gear on multiple tracks.
TonyS.
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Yes. I used to do this with my GSP1101, Engl e530 and Behringer V-amp. But I treated them like plugins. With a mic you could do the same, but you would have to treat the rig like a plugin.
The tricky part with the plugin is printing it. I guess it could compensate for the bit of delay from the converters and distance from the speaker to the mic. So could record that track with the plugin to the other track.
Nahh.... it is messy. What I did was run a loopback from my output to my input and recorded it and measured the delay to account for the converter latency. Or you can use the external effect as a loopback and measure that way.
Then I set my "Adjust for recording latency" setting appropriately in Cubase to just account for converter sample latency. Then I re-amp recording the mics.
Accounting for converter latency is one thing. But the mic distances is another since that will typically be the general reaction. When a player hits the string, it still does take a ms or two to get to the mic. So I wouldn't worry about that.
How can I measure the delay I get while reamping? I never actually slipped anything after reamping, because I thought its not audible.
