West Syria

[dorian gray]

Where the fuck is ChaosLee?

 

[Internally Deformed]

There's a new attack every week.

And there are gang killings every hour, but no one hears about them.

 

[CiG]

And there are gang killings every hour, but no one hears about them.

Because they're not relevant in the same way. Stop being a dense moron, I've already gone over this. It's not the violence that is relevant.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Because they're not relevant in the same way. Stop being a dense moron, I've already gone over this. It's not the violence that is relevant.

It's like you're intentionally arguing against yourself - precisely, the violence isn't important, it's the impact on the public psyche, which chiefly makes itself felt through the media. If people treat terrorist attacks as being as unimportant as gang killings, they automatically become as unimportant as gang killings. The distinction is purely psychological, which is exactly what you're saying.

 

[CiG]

It's like you're intentionally arguing against yourself - precisely, the violence isn't important, it's the impact on the public psyche, which chiefly makes itself felt through the media. If people treat terrorist attacks as being as unimportant as gang killings, they automatically become as unimportant as gang killings. The distinction is purely psychological, which is exactly what you're saying.

[massive sigh] Your stupidity is exhausting.

No, what IS important is the politics of the terrorist attacks, the intentions of the attacks. Gangs don't murder other gang members because they want to destroy the freedom of the entire country or pervert the culture.

They do it because they're tribal and after money.

Terrorism is not the same, you don't shout "Allahu Akbar" before you murder kids because you just want to cause violence, you don't blow up an abortion clinic for the same reason either. There are ideologies and intentions behind the act and that is what's important.

 

[dorian gray]

Are you guys drunk?

 

[CiG]

I fucking wish.

 

[dorian gray]

Come on man. Pull yourself together and grab some bourbon

 

[Internally Deformed]

[massive sigh] Your stupidity is exhausting.

No, what IS important is the politics of the terrorist attacks, the intentions of the attacks. Gangs don't murder other gang members because they want to destroy the freedom of the entire country or pervert the culture.

They do it because they're tribal and after money.

Terrorism is not the same, you don't shout "Allahu Akbar" before you murder kids because you just want to cause violence, you don't blow up an abortion clinic for the same reason either. There are ideologies and intentions behind the act and that is what's important.

Why should I be more afraid of someone killing me for religious reasons than for my money? Completely nonsensical.

 

[dorian gray]

I'm afraid of nothing

 

[CiG]

Why should I be more afraid of someone killing me for religious reasons than for my money? Completely nonsensical.

What you're afraid of personally =/= what the country worries about collectively.

 

[Internally Deformed]

What you're afraid of personally =/= what the country worries about collectively.

And you don't see that media coverage is the primary component in determining the people's worries?

 

[dorian gray]

it sure is

 

[dorian gray]

Designed to cause fear

 

[CiG]

And you don't see that media coverage is the primary component in determining the people's worries?

Perhaps, so what? Someone blowing up a shopping mall or shooting up a nightclub is worth worrying about, in the context of global jihad.
If they were fabricating these events you'd have a point.

 

[dorian gray]

These jihadists are nothing to worry about. Isolated instances of cowardice that could be brought down by one man with some balls and maybe a handgun or even a blunt instrument

 

[dorian gray]

A McDonalds full of children? A club full of gays? I want to see one of these pussies attack some place where actual men hang out and see what happens

 

[CiG]

These jihadists are nothing to worry about. Isolated instances of cowardice that could be brought down by one man with some balls and maybe a handgun or even a blunt instrument

The problem is, throughout most of Europe the populace is disarmed, which is why this wave of terrorism is noteworthy and gang activity is not, because culture is weaved throughout the issue.

Lee Rigby's murder is especially noteworthy, because after he was run down and then almost beheaded, people just stood around and watched, even filmed it. England is a disarmed country and the terrorists know that pretty much anywhere they attack is a soft target as a result.

 

[dorian gray]

Hmmm good point

 

[Internally Deformed]

Perhaps, so what? Someone blowing up a shopping mall or shooting up a nightclub is worth worrying about, in the context of global jihad.
If they were fabricating these events you'd have a point.

Except that the thing worth worrying about isn't actually the risk of being blown up in a shopping mall or shot in a nightclub, which you agree is pretty minimal compared to being killed by an ordinary criminal.

The thing worth worrying about is other people worrying about there being something to worry about, because that kind of fear might lead to us doing something really stupid.