What a retard

[Dead Winter]

Why do people put cartoons they didn't create in their signatures?

Because Red Meat kills all other comic strips. Milkman Dan and Ted own all.

 

[Dead Winter]

Can you actually tell when someone sings off-key? I've read that WD does, along with some others. But I don't know exactly what to listen for.

If the vocals are out of key with the rest of the instruments, it's off key.

 

[El Stormo]

If the vocals are out of key with the rest of the instruments, it's off key.

Usually, but not necessarily. Like I said, the only bad note is a note you didn't intend to produce. Udo Dirkschneider is a terrible singer, but his whole singing sticks together because that's the way he wants to sing. If you sing in a way you didn't intend to, that's a bad note.

 

[Dead Winter]

I disagree somewhat. If you purposely sing out of key because it's your style, it may sound cool and people like it that way, but if it's out of key with the other instruments, it's off key. There's no gray area...it's the same as playing guitar. If you play a solo in a different key that's not dissonant over a riff in a different key, you're playing out of key. Even if you think it sounds good, it's still out of key.

Singing out of key isn't always a bad thing, just as you said. But just because it sounds cool doesn't mean it's in the same key.

However, it doesn't need to be in key to be good, just theoretically correct. This is why virtuosos are boring to me...everything's so perfect that there's no soul.

 

[Chromatose]

Think outside the box.

Listening to Coltrane, the man can play "off-key" on a whim, but it fits. It could be chalked up to being notes in an extension of some crazy chord.

That's different from having bad pitch. Trying to hit a note and being off by a semitone, that's more of what I consider "off-key".

 

[Captain Beard]

Boy have I done that, its embarassing.

 

[Dead Winter]

That's a better description. Bad bends are off-key...like Kirk Hammett's bends in the concert I saw in Padova.

For me, there are no rules in playing guitar. Theoretically it may be "wrong", but nothing is "wrong" in my opinion when it comes to guitar.

Unless you suck at bending.

 

[Chromatose]

Yeah, pretty much.

Like my Jazz instructor used to say, there are no wrong notes, it's just how you play those notes.

 

[Captain Beard]

That's a better description. Bad bends are off-key...like Kirk Hammett's bends in the concert I saw in Padova.

For me, there are no rules in playing guitar. Theoretically it may be "wrong", but nothing is "wrong" in my opinion when it comes to guitar.

Unless you suck at bending.

Not I.

 

[Dead Winter]

Annalisa has perfect pitch and it pisses me off to no end that I can't name the notes, phrases, and dissonant chords like she can. I use her as a guide to my playing and singing because if she says it's perfect, then it's perfect.

I jumped up on stage at my friend's concert and grabbed the mic and sang Cowboys From Hell one night, and everyone was saying how awesome it was but I shrugged it off until she told me it was all in pitch with the original.

That was when I started glowing,

 

[Dead Winter]

Not I.

You're after my heart, aren't you?

 

[Captain Beard]

Glowing? Like a pregnant woman?

 

[Dead Winter]

Pretty much.

Or like someone who just got laid.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

You know, I tend to like singers who aren't totally on key all (most of) the time. My two favorite singers right now are Nemtheanga from Primoridal and Rob from Mael Mordha (both drunken irishmen, go figure) and I think they're probably off key more often then not.

 

[Dead Winter]

Nemtheanga is a great singer, IMO. I love Primordial.

My favorite singer of all time is Chris Cornell, though.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Nemtheanga is the most emotional metal singer. Fact. One must only listen to Coffin Ships to verify that.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

Nemtheanga is the most emotional metal singer. Fact. One must only listen to Coffin Ships to verify that.

dashboard confessional, motherFUCKER

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

yeah yeah yeah, whatev.
Though seriously, that MCR song Helena came on the radio at work. Catchy as fuck.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

cemetary drive ftw

 

[Captain Beard]

This thread reeks of ass.