What could I do to make these guitars more "solid"?

[Heabow]

I thought this mix was ok but, although it's coherent, there's a serious lack of body in the guitars imo. I think the bass tone is good so I didn't touch it. I tried to add some 750Hz and/or some 350Hz but it didn't solve the problem. It added a muddy feel. Then tried to push around 70-80Hz: didn't seem to be the right spot...

Perhaps, the solution could be to push down some frequencies but don't know which ones.

Any advice?

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EDIT: Did some changes (links also in my last post)

BEFORE
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_BEFORE.wav
AFTER
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_AFTER.wav
AFTER 2
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_AFTER2.wav

 

[oroinvictus]

Is that intro sound effect fairly popular or something? I've heard it in Slice The Cake's stuff and a couple other records... sounds like the tone could use some 5-800hz warmth and less high-mids.

 

[JakeAC5253]

More 150-300, less 4-8khz. Sounds like textbook T75s to me. What are you using?

 

[Heabow]

150-ish Hz sounds like it could save the stuff... Will try tomorrow. I will have to reduce this range on bass I guess.
Actually I produced, mixed the tracks and wrote the big part of the arrangements but the guys found this sample on the Internet. I just EQd it a bit and added a lil' compression. Cool ambiance tho imo.

Nothing bad for you in the mix?

 

[Contra Studio]

Sounds lik the 4125323kzma to me.

 

[Heabow]

Sounds lik the 4125323kzma to me.

??

 

[oroinvictus]

Sounds lik the 4125323kzma to me.

 

[Contra Studio]

Sorry I had been drinking

 

[RedDog]

Sounds lik the 4125323kzma to me.

I agree with this.

 

[Fox Mulder]

 

[Heabow]

Hey

I boosted around 170-260Hz, reduced at 820Hz and 6.2kHz and boosted some 1.7kHz for the bite. My ears are pretty tired now so please let me what you think! Here are 2 clips for easier comparison:

BEFORE
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_BEFORE.wav
AFTER
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_AFTER.wav
AFTER 2 (more accentuated)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_AFTER2.wav

I am also interested in having your opinion about the guitar sound in general, that's actually for first time I use this kind of gear..

 

[JakeAC5253]

Hey

I boosted around 170-260kHz, reduced at 820Khz and 6.2Hz and boosted some 1.7kHz for the bite. My ears are pretty tired now so please let me what you think! Here are 2 clips for easier comparison:

BEFORE
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_BEFORE.wav
AFTER
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36870048/GTRTONE_AFTER.wav

I am also interested in having your opinion about the guitar sound in general, that's actually for first time I use this kind of gear..

That is so much better now, the whole mix has filled out nicely. Just goes to show you how important a good guitar tone really is to a mix.

 

[Heabow]

Thank you so much man for your advice, it helped A LOT!

I added a third link more accentuated ('AFTER 2'). I think it's a bit better. And yeah, a good tone is essential!
BTW, as I wasn't able to work with a real amp, I used Metal Amp Room EQd (SSL4000) + VCC, PT EQ and C4 on the guitar buss. It's the very first time I use an amp sim and it's pretty decent imo.

 

[JakeAC5253]

I feel like the first After clip is seated better, After 2 took it too far I think, not the right tone balance. In my opinion of course.

 

[oroinvictus]

Sorry I had been drinking

 

[Heabow]

I feel like the first After clip is seated better, After 2 took it too far I think, not the right tone balance. In my opinion of course.

After listened to the two last clips many times on different speakers, it appears that the third one is maybe a bit too much.

Other opinions?

 

[zer0_c00l]

175Khz? just a little bit more and you're mixing colors!

 

[Heabow]

175Khz? just a little bit more and you're mixing colors!

Ahahah! Comment fixed!

 

[delayshifter]

 

[Heabow]

What? You don't see purple, red and blue when you listen to this mix? I do! Ahahah!