true, morningrise and orchid have this terrible stop start feel to them. Orchid has the better production, morningrise's production is like a tin can. Either way, there is no way Steven wilson couldve ruined Opeth. On the contrary they wouldve been totally fucked without him on deliverance and damnation, as he was their saviour that actually helped the record to be finished. He wasnt to fault for deliverance being a boring and repetive album, that was soley opeths fault because they were rushed and the sound was so forced. im not a fan of steven wilson either way, even tho he is a pretty fuckin good producer, i just dont like it. I think it would sound interesting with katatonia. I dont think it could harm to try either. as they could do alot worse.