Which of these formats is highest quality?

WNxScythe

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Mp3, WMA, OGG Vorbis, MPEG-4 AAC, or MusePack MPC and which will work on a stereo/cd player (if burned to a blank cd)?
 
OGG>WMA>MP3(unless mp3 is high quality, where it can be =wma). i'm not sure about the others.

my computer converts all files before burning so i'm not sure what plays in a stereo as i don't know what filetype they are.
 
OGG files are fucking horrible, they compress the mp3s making them lower quility(really low quality). They sound like low-fi cardboard crap. Atleast you can rule out OGG files as not an option. That's unless you want shit quality.
 
The Greys said:
OGG files are fucking horrible, they compress the mp3s making them lower quility(really low quality). They sound like low-fi cardboard crap. Atleast you can rule out OGG files as not an option. That's unless you want shit quality.
Most people are smart enough not to compress already compressed files. You're only supposed to compress when doing the initial ripping.
 
Yeah, compressing an already compressed file can only result in weaker quality.

as for the initial post, from my own experience I'd say OGG>MPEG-4 AAC>MP3>WMA. No idea about MusePack MPC.

If you really want to go with the best possible quality, then rip in lossless. No loss in quality, only the file size tends to be rather big. I usually rip mine in FLAC, also very easy to convert them to lossy formats afterwards if you want to decrease the file size.
 
Fin-Laden said:
I usually rip mine in FLAC, also very easy to convert them to lossy formats afterwards if you want to decrease the file size.

Perhaps it should be added that that's when using the LAME encoder and coverting to mp3, or? As for the initial question: use EAC to rip your CDs and LAME and a relativly high VBR setting to convert the files to mp3
 
spaffe said:
Perhaps it should be added that that's when using the LAME encoder and coverting to mp3, or? As for it initial question: use EAC to rip your CDs and LAME and a relativly high VBR setting to convert the files to mp3

Yeah, I use dBpowerAMP to convert them to MP3, with the latest LAME encoder and I usually rip my CD's with EAC to flac to back-up the originals.
 
I don't know why everyone rags on .wma's so much. They're usually less than half the size of .mp3's. They take half as long to download, if speed is an issue with your connection. The size is nice if you like to copy all your cds on to your hard drive. I tend to own most of the music I have, so I don't burn that much music, unless I plan on giving stuff to friends, or copying rare albums, etc. I'm not really bothered by the slightly worse sound quality of .wma's. I've never had problems playing cds with .wma's on either car stereos or cd players otherwise.
 
Err why would you use OGG for music...ever? the mpeg-4 is 2nd best to mp3.

nothing beats high quality mp3 other then mp2 but thats not available to mainstream users yet.
 
Erik said:
You are an absolute fucking idiot. GET OUT.

Because out of files I download, the ones that are OGG sound like the most shit. I posted my opinion using my ears, fuck you if you don't like it.

And if OGG files are such shit you have to put them through a program to convert them. They suck even more for being a big pain in the ass. Fuck OGG files and fuck you. Some people want to listen to mp3s. Not spend all night trying to convert files in a program you nerd.
 
The Greys said:
And if OGG files are such shit you have to put them through a program to convert them. They suck even more for being a big pain in the ass. Fuck OGG files and fuck you. Some people want to listen to mp3s. Not spend all night trying to convert files in a program you nerd.

YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING IDIOT. GET OUT.
 
STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT PLEASE THANKS

Of the common lossy codecs, your best choices will be Vorbis (.ogg) and MP3 (.mp3).

Vorbis is a superior codec to MP3, but MP3 is likely to be a better choice for most needs since it's the standard format; you're never going to find a portable player, for example, that doesn't play MP3.

Rip in at least -q5 Vorbis or at least --alt-preset standard MP3 (with LAME) and you'll get lovely quality music. If I was just ripping for a personal collection that I wasn't going to share, I'd use Vorbis; if you're going to be sharing these, or compatability is an issue, then go with MP3.
 
The Greys said:
Because out of files I download, the ones that are OGG sound like the most shit. I posted my opinion using my ears, fuck you if you don't like it.

And if OGG files are such shit you have to put them through a program to convert them. They suck even more for being a big pain in the ass. Fuck OGG files and fuck you. Some people want to listen to mp3s. Not spend all night trying to convert files in a program you nerd.


When you encode to a lossy codec, you remove data from the file - that's why an MP3 is considerably smaller than the original lossless files on a CD. Now, if you do this once, then it's fine - your MP3 encoder will try and remove sound that you can't physically hear, so you can't tell the difference.

Now, if you then take that lossy file and try and convert it to a lossy file, the encoder will treat that file the same as an original audio source, and remove data from it, resulting in even lower quality. Once you've taken away the data, there's no way of getting it back; you have to re-rip from the original source.

Converting from one lossy format to the other and then complaining that it sounds like shit is only showing how much of a clueless idiot you are, not how bad the codec is :erk: