Who are you voting for?

Who gets your vote?

  • Bush

    Votes: 18 34.6%
  • Kerry

    Votes: 19 36.5%
  • Nader

    Votes: 3 5.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 12 23.1%

  • Total voters
    52
GASOLINEDREAM said:
I really don't see how the numbers here are remotely possible when every time there's a bombing in Iraq of our soldiers President Shithead and his staff call it a terrorist act. That means approximately (I'm guessing) 200-400 people, according to their interpretations, have died to terrorists in that conflict alone.

I don't care what they call it, it's an act of war.

GASOLINEDREAM said:
Bush administration policies in the war on terrorism actually increased anti-U.S. sentiment and has mobilized terrorists. Terrorism will continue to rise over time. Only it didn't used to be nearly as focused against the U.S. as it is now. The extremists now have a new focus, allowing radical groups to widen their appeal among Muslims and others. Every day there is some sort of terrorism alert all over the world--just not always in the U.S or always 100% directed towards us.

I hate to have seen what would have happened if Gore was in charge on 9/11?

GASOLINEDREAM said:
Furthermore, GOd is apparently helping to run our country and I am a strong believer in seperation of Church and State, as intended by our founding fathers. Bush does not share my belief in this. He actually supports amending the Constittuion to promote his personal religious beliefs. I have an idea: FUCK YOU! KEEP YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF THE CONSTITUTION NITWIT!
Agreed, but...
GASOLINEDREAM said:
This administration is against things they don't like or find objectionable
You really think another wouldn't be?

We're not going to change each others mind. So you have your Gomer Pyle and I'll keep my monkey. :wave:
 
George 'The Animal' Steele for President.
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Captain Lou for VP
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don't care what they call it, it's an act of war.

I agree with you, but every time we get attacked nowadays or this administration has a group they dislike, they are automatically labled as terrorists. Some of these people are, some are not! It makes me laugh!



I hate to have seen what would have happened if Gore was in charge on 9/11?

I personally don't believe it matters one bit who was President on 9-11. We would have gone into Afghanistan no matter what. We had free reign to do whatever we wanted and we had nearly unanimous world support--almost all of which has eroded since then, mostly, in my opinion, cause of Bush. I was in Brazil on the first anniversary of 9-11 and people were asking me where I was, how I felt, etc, and it was all over their news. Last time I was there, right around the second anniversary, they were much less sympathetic and asked me why we haven't had a revolt aginst our poor leader yet?

last time i checked, they haven't caught the mastermind of 9-11 and we have wasted billions of dollars in an unrelated country in the middle east. ALthough I have a sneaking suspicion that come September, there may be a "surprise" capture of one asshole terrorist fuckhead.

Agreed, but... You really think another wouldn't be?

i am actually pretty anti-our current system and I am pretty Libertarian, but i don't think George Bush and much of his staff are intelligent or free-thinking enough or small government enough to make any more decisions for us and I want them out.

We're not going to change each others mind. So you have your Gomer Pyle and I'll keep my monkey. :wave:[/QUOTE]

You are very right! :wave: So a couple things we agree on: :rock: :rock: We LOVE Anthrax and sex!! :rock:
 
The way I figure it, they can't really do any worse than the other guys running while being more charistmatic and cooler.

Also, we need someone in the oval office wearing scrunchies in their beard.
 
I don't know what Gore would have done if he were in office on 9/11. But I do believe that Sen. McCain would have done a much better job if he would have had the Republican nod to run for office rather than Bush.

That's what's fuct up. Bush didn't really get the nod because of his credentials. He got it because of the popularity of the name Bush and being a former president's son.

On a further note, I'm sick people saying shit about what would have Gore done if he were in office during 9/11. A much scarier thought is:

What if Dubya was in office during the cold war???? What would he have NOT done??

I don't have the right to vote in the U.S. as I am not a citizen, but I pay attention to what's going on. If I did have the right to vote, I'd vote for Kerry.

I think a Kerry/McCain ticket would beat Bush in a landslide, stablize shit, improve our military and foreign relations, and help minimize bi-partisanship.

Bi-partisanship in my opinion is a huge problem for this country. If you recall 9/10/01, the main issue at hand in DC was tax cuts. Both parties were in a hissy fit over tax cuts. I was a waiter at this place across the street from the house and when the Senators and Congressmen came in for lunch, that's all they spoke of. All over the news for months, all we heard of were tax cuts. Politicians were going against their belief's only to support their party.
 
Cincy Vigilante said:
This is from the Department of State web site


There were 190 acts of international terrorism in 2003, a slight decrease from the 198 attacks that occurred in 2002, and a drop of 45 percent from the level in 2001 of 346 attacks. The figure in 2003 represents the lowest annual total of international terrorist attacks since 1969.

A total of 307 persons were killed in the attacks of 2003, far fewer than the 725 killed during 2002. A total of 1,593 persons were wounded in the attacks that occurred in 2003, down from 2,013 persons wounded the year before. In 2003, the highest number of attacks (70) and the highest casualty count (159 persons dead and 951 wounded) occurred in Asia.

Pull your heads out of Dan Rathers and Michael Moores ass and you will discover all kinds of shit out. The liberal media won't tell you about this or the economic recovery because A, they are bed wetters and want to support their liberal agenda and B, bad news sells better than good news.
I am voting for Bush for many reasons.
1. I LOVE tax cuts. I pay to much of my money in taxes as it is. I'll take a 300 tax cut all day long. When dems are talking about "they are only for the rich" well by rich they mean a family that makes 90 grand a year. well that aint rich my friend. The top 25% of income earners pay 82.9 percent of taxes the bottom 50 percent of wage earners pay 4 percent of the taxes. But think about it, if the taxes to P&G go up who pays really? The company? No, they are not going to cut profits they will raise the price of Tide to us in order to cover the cost of more taxes. So I'm all for tax cuts for those who pay taxes.
2. In the war on terrorism I would rather be proactive than reactive.
3. I am not a fan of abortion. In the case or rape or incest or saving the mothers life is the only exception.
4. I think he stands by his beliefs and makes choices based on what he thinks the best thing to do is.
So tell me, why are you voting for Kerry?
WASHINGTON - The State Department acknowledged Thursday it was wrong in reporting terrorism declined worldwide last year, a finding used to boost one of President Bush (news - web sites)'s chief foreign policy claims — success in countering terror.




Instead, both the number of incidents and the toll in victims increased sharply, the department said. Statements by senior administration officials claiming success were based "on the facts as we had them at the time. The facts that we had were wrong," department spokesman Richard Boucher said.


The April report said attacks had declined last year to 190, the lowest level in 34 years, and dropped 45 percent since 2001, Bush's first year as president. The department is now working to determine the correct figures.


Rep. Henry A. Waxman, who had challenged the findings, said he was pleased that officials "have now recognized that they have a report that has been inaccurate, and based on the inaccurate information they tried to take self-serving political credit for the results that were wrong."


Among the mistakes, Boucher said, was that only part of 2003 was taken into account.


Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said Thursday the errors were partly the result of new data collection procedures. "I can assure you it had nothing to do with putting out anything but the most honest, accurate information we can," he said.


"Errors crept in that frankly we did not catch here," Powell said. The report showed both a drop in the number of attacks worldwide in 2003 and the virtual disappearance of attacks in which no one died.


Waxman said this week the administration had refused to address his contention that the findings were manipulated for political purposes. Waxman asked Powell for an explanation.


On Thursday, Powell called Waxman, D-Calif., who said he accepted the secretary's explanation that the mistakes were unintentional.


"He says it wasn't politically motivated so I will accept that," Waxman said. Still, he said, "We are still left with the fact that this report is useless until it is corrected."


Boucher said the errors began to become apparent in early May. "We got phone calls from people who were going through our report and who said to themselves, as we should have said to ourselves: 'This doesn't feel right. This doesn't look right.' And who started asking us questions," he said.


One of Bush's major foreign policy claims is that his post-Sept. 11 strategy to counter terror was showing success.


Ken Mehlman, the president's campaign manager, said in April, "Ultimately the most important thing that people want to see on the war on terror is, what is your vision for dealing with it and what is your record."


"Obviously one of the most important issues in this election is the question of how do we continue to fight and win the war on terror so we keep our homeland safe," Mehlman said.


At the same time, Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) and Mehlman have questioned whether Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) was qualified to conduct a war against terrorism.


When the annual report was issued April 29, senior administration officials used it as evidence the war was being won under Bush.


J. Cofer Black, who heads the State Department's counterterrorism office, cited the existence of only 190 acts of terrorism in 2003 as "good news" and predicted the trend would continue this year.





Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage said at the time, "Indeed, you will find in these pages clear evidence that we are prevailing in the fight."

His office did not respond Thursday to a request for a statement in light of disclosures some of the findings in "Patterns of Global Terrorism" were inaccurate and understated.
.....http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...0610/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/powell_terror_report_6



Looks like somebody in the Bush adminstration screwed the pooch once again, first the WMDs, then the ties between Al-Queda and Hussein, now this. Just another reason why I will be voting for Kerry, the Bush administration is becoming a comedy of errors. Sure, Bush makes decisions based on what he believes but when it comes to cold hard facts, well, thats another story altogether. Now, pull your head out of Rush Limbaughs' and Bill O'Reillys' Ass and maybe you will find something out.
 
AlexStomp said:
I don't know what Gore would have done if he were in office on 9/11. But I do believe that Sen. McCain would have done a much better job if he would have had the Republican nod to run for office rather than Bush.

That's what's fuct up. Bush didn't really get the nod because of his credentials. He got it because of the popularity of the name Bush and being a former president's son.

On a further note, I'm sick people saying shit about what would have Gore done if he were in office during 9/11. A much scarier thought is:

What if Dubya was in office during the cold war???? What would he have NOT done??

I don't have the right to vote in the U.S. as I am not a citizen, but I pay attention to what's going on. If I did have the right to vote, I'd vote for Kerry.

I think a Kerry/McCain ticket would beat Bush in a landslide, stablize shit, improve our military and foreign relations, and help minimize bi-partisanship.

Bi-partisanship in my opinion is a huge problem for this country. If you recall 9/10/01, the main issue at hand in DC was tax cuts. Both parties were in a hissy fit over tax cuts. I was a waiter at this place across the street from the house and when the Senators and Congressmen came in for lunch, that's all they spoke of. All over the news for months, all we heard of were tax cuts. Politicians were going against their belief's only to support their party.
Bipartisanship is a problem???
 
AlexStomp said:
I don't know what Gore would have done if he were in office on 9/11. But I do believe that Sen. McCain would have done a much better job if he would have had the Republican nod to run for office rather than Bush.

That's what's fuct up. Bush didn't really get the nod because of his credentials. He got it because of the popularity of the name Bush and being a former president's son.

On a further note, I'm sick people saying shit about what would have Gore done if he were in office during 9/11. A much scarier thought is:

What if Dubya was in office during the cold war???? What would he have NOT done??

I don't have the right to vote in the U.S. as I am not a citizen, but I pay attention to what's going on. If I did have the right to vote, I'd vote for Kerry.

I think a Kerry/McCain ticket would beat Bush in a landslide, stablize shit, improve our military and foreign relations, and help minimize bi-partisanship.

Bi-partisanship in my opinion is a huge problem for this country. If you recall 9/10/01, the main issue at hand in DC was tax cuts. Both parties were in a hissy fit over tax cuts. I was a waiter at this place across the street from the house and when the Senators and Congressmen came in for lunch, that's all they spoke of. All over the news for months, all we heard of were tax cuts. Politicians were going against their belief's only to support their party.
I would have voted for McCain in a heartbeat, I don't always agree with him, but I like his basic honesty and integrity and I respect him.
 
I like his honesty and integrity. His hard work in the house. He works overtime. He's one of few politicians that stays in town when the house is not in session. He really loves what he does, has a passion for it. I could see him in the white house but it'd be either in 5 years when either Bush's or Kerry's term is up, or now if he ran with Kerry.


And before we get in a huge arguement, these are all just opinions. I think Bi-partisanship hurts America. The only time the parties unite is in tragedy (9.11) or when someone dies (Reagan).
 
GASOLINEDREAM said:
I am uninformed! What are you referring to!? :cry:
It has to do with the whole campain finance reform thing. I don't remember the exact part bucause i'm a little intoxicated right now but I believe it has something to do with that. Not sure what else, if anything, at the moment though.
 
AlexStomp said:
I like his honesty and integrity. His hard work in the house. He works overtime. He's one of few politicians that stays in town when the house is not in session. He really loves what he does, has a passion for it. I could see him in the white house but it'd be either in 5 years when either Bush's or Kerry's term is up, or now if he ran with Kerry.


And before we get in a huge arguement, these are all just opinions. I think Bi-partisanship hurts America. The only time the parties unite is in tragedy (9.11) or when someone dies (Reagan).
Bipartisanship IS parties uniting. I'm confused. I think it violates antitrust laws if you read them carefully enough.
“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices,” -Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations (1776)

And working EXTRA time in Congress is BAD. I wish they would all work LESS time.
 
Cincy Vigilante said:
1. I LOVE tax cuts. I pay to much of my money in taxes as it is. I'll take a 300 tax cut all day long.
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and how exactly do you plan to spend your windfall of wealth with this tax cut? I mean, 82 cents a day can really go along way if you invest wisely.......im for tax cuts too but I believe they could of found something better to do with my 82 cents, maybe they could feed one of those kids I see on TV all the time. "For the price of a cup of coffee, you can feed Mumumbu for a month", you know the ones im talking about. Thats alot of kids that wont be going to sleep hungry but it depends on where you get your coffee. But wait.....I've did a little "fuzzy math" on these tax numbers and with the extra money that I spend on gas now, my tax cut goes right in my gas tank. Lets say that we are paying 50 cents more a gallon for gas,(im just using 50 cents as an estimate, its sometimes more, sometimes less) then we were prior to the tax cut and your car holds approximately 11 gallons of gas, which is less than the average (mine holds 14 gallons). If you fill your tank once a week, like I do, then that is an extra $5.50 a week in gas. Now, well take $5.50 times 52,and..drum roll please.......we get $286. That leaves most of us lucky taxpayers with a grand total of $14 of our big tax break. Wow, what will I ever do with my $14? I think Ill buy a case of beer and drink myself into a stupor so the ass-raping that im taking from this administration wont hurt as bad...at least not until the morning. Sorry Mumumbu, youll just have to make due on what youve got...my 82 cents a day has other places to go. Maybe you can crush these beer cans and recycle them for a few pennies though.