World debut of Amaranthe's brand-new video for Amaranthine

yet got a midround slot based on one album.

It is Glenn's festival and he can run it how he sees fit, but sometimes...

Delain had 2 albums, FWIW



I like it. Who cares if its pop music disguised as metal. If today's pop was more focused on low-tuned guitars and kick drums, instead of keyboards and auto-tune, the world would be a much better place :Spin:

As for the band itself, it looks like they're following the 80s formula for releasing singles: 1st song - Rocking, 2nd song - Ballad :loco:
 
Hell, if we are going on discography numbers, then Virgin Steele or Rage should have packed the place instead of playing to 1/2 full floors.

Unfortunately, I didn't start coming to PP until after this had happened, but from my understanding, it was 1/2 full only because Evergrey did a impromptu signing session outside? Otherwise, I would expect that Rage would have had a much bigger crowd... and I hope one day they will prove me right :grin:
 
Otherwise, I would expect that Rage would have had a much bigger crowd...

The thing to note is that once the fans got their stuff signed, they still didn't return to watch the rest of the set. It stayed empty as the set went on instead of filling back up. That line moved quickly so time was not a factor so much.
 
The thing to note is that once the fans got their stuff signed, they still didn't return to watch the rest of the set. It stayed empty as the set went on instead of filling back up. That line moved quickly so time was not a factor so much.

Wow, really?! Those people don't know what they were missing out on! Sadly, I do :( Easily my biggest regret regarding PP, was that I didn't start coming until 6. I woulda killed to see Rage, especially with that lineup! :(
 
I know there are harsh vocals in this song, but I can't see for the life of me why people classify this with a "death" tag added somewhere in their genre naming scheme. Cuz then you gotta go and say its "Pop Death" or something. Anyways, I liked the song. Props for not "radio editing" out the harsh vox like some of the other bands in this genre.
 
Diablo was fine with his comments other than the skimpy outfit part. I consider myself friends of the band and it was just disrespectful in my own house. Otherwise, he can simply say...I really don't like the band.

Mispelling of my username aside, I understand and apologize. Even if I recognized the inherent dickishness in my comments about Amaranthe's singer, I was disrespectful to her in a way that I usually am not. She is a lovely woman and I do apologize. Not as funny as I intended...
 
Heh. I knew I was going to get a lot of shit for my post.

And Delain got a pretty damn good reaction when they played, as I'm sure Amaranthe will.

Has anyone really got a bad reaction? Well, other than people not staying in the room. Festival goers here are generally supportive, which makes for a great festival.

Was there an announcement made somewhere that I missed that said, "Today is the day to be a total fucking asshole to Glenn on the forum?" Did I miss the "You can be a douchebag for free today because you don't agree with a band selection?"

So, I'm an asshole for expressing my opinion? I'll have to remember that.

Look man, I'm not always going to agree with you. It doesn't mean I won't support you. But, support isn't blind support. Personally, I'm really on the fence about next year, partially due to other potential commitments.

I get that you don't like every band. However, "but sometimes"....I put up with some of the biggest prick comments ever. For your information, Delain has sold just as many, if not more albums than any band that I have had in that slot or below at the time on an album to album ratio. They also have had the longest signing session of the past five years (1 hr,40 minutes per my staff update as of 8:13pm tonight- thanks Keith). You don't like them. Others do.

Amaranthe are blowing the fuck up all over the world with the U.S. territory being the last in line. Hell, at one point, they ranked higher than Lady Gaga in Japan on the international artist charts.

I get that. I know why they are here. It doesn't mean I have to like that reason.

Superior is your bitter pill? Holy shit. I love the band, but you do realize they only sold a handful of albums and never properly toured as anything other than an opening band in Europe? They had a cult status and nothing more. Hell, if we are going on discography numbers, then Virgin Steele or Rage should have packed the place instead of playing to 1/2 full floors.

Obviously they weren't, which is why they are no more. I just wanted more than just a 45 minute set for a band that had three albums worth of material and one of my early faves in prog metal. I'm just trying to get at the heart of why this bothers me.

If you don't like a band, just say you don't like the band.

It has less to do with the band and more to do with the "hotness" factor of the band, which seems to be bumping them up the lineup a bit. I just would like to see someone at that position that has a little more of a track record and seasoning, that's all.

Personally, I think they are OK. There is a certain amount of sameness to their songs and a pop slickness to their production. I don't think it was worth the $16 that I paid for it, but I'll probably keep it.

Delain had 2 albums, FWIW

Yes, but they didn't really catch fire until they settled on Charlotte Wessels as their lead singer for the 2nd album. So, my example still stands.

The thing to note is that once the fans got their stuff signed, they still didn't return to watch the rest of the set. It stayed empty as the set went on instead of filling back up. That line moved quickly so time was not a factor so much.

Yeah, the lack of a crowd for Rage was disappointing. That being said, it took me a while to like Rage and I can't say at the point of the show that I was a fan.
 
Why did we have to bring Rage into this :erk: That still hurts.

Palabra, for the record, your comment about the skimpy outfit made me lol. It's a good thing I know how charming you are in person otherwise I might not have gotten what you were saying. I think I'm the only one who wasn't offended by that. Is that bad?
 
Was there an announcement made somewhere that I missed that said, "Today is the day to be a total fucking asshole to Glenn on the forum?" Did I miss the "You can be a douchebag for free today because you don't agree with a band selection?"

Diablo was fine with his comments other than the skimpy outfit part. I consider myself friends of the band and it was just disrespectful in my own house. Otherwise, he can simply say...I really don't like the band."


I get that you don't like every band. However, "but sometimes"....I put up with some of the biggest prick comments ever. For your information, Delain has sold just as many, if not more albums than any band that I have had in that slot or below at the time on an album to album ratio. They also have had the longest signing session of the past five years (1 hr,40 minutes per my staff update as of 8:13pm tonight- thanks Keith). You don't like them. Others do.

Amaranthe are blowing the fuck up all over the world with the U.S. territory being the last in line. Hell, at one point, they ranked higher than Lady Gaga in Japan on the international artist charts.

Superior is your bitter pill? Holy shit. I love the band, but you do realize they only sold a handful of albums and never properly toured as anything other than an opening band in Europe? They had a cult status and nothing more. Hell, if we are going on discography numbers, then Virgin Steele or Rage should have packed the place instead of playing to 1/2 full floors.

If you don't like a band, just say you don't like the band.


After seeing some of these comments, I was literally also going to ask if it was act douchy for free day or what. Guys, cain't we all juss get alongs??:) Dominick gets pelted with tomatoes.
 
So, I'm an asshole for expressing my opinion? I'll have to remember that.

Nope. You were an asshole by the way you expressed your opinion. There is a HUGE difference.

It's one thing to say I think that band sucks, has no talent, and I just hate them. I have zero problem with that because it is an opinion. It's another to go down the "It's his festival, but.." That goes way the fuck beyond not liking a specific band. If you are going to down that road, then expect me to call you out on it. I don't remember posting, "Well Longshot is fan, but I really question why he bothers..."

And no, I could give two feathers plucked off a one-legged duck's ass about "blind support." That card gets played on every forum when either I or any one else defends me. All I ask for is respect in how I run the festival in my own forum, and that includes the selection process from a business perspective.
 
Mispelling of my username aside, I understand and apologize. Even if I recognized the inherent dickishness in my comments about Amaranthe's singer, I was disrespectful to her in a way that I usually am not. She is a lovely woman and I do apologize. Not as funny as I intended...

Ooops.

I actually understood there was not true ill intent on your part. I just have to remind folks from time to time that the bands that perform at the festival actively read this forum. It's one of the reasons they feel comfortable socializing at the show.
 
Personally, I LOVE Delain and Amaranthe for the vocals and music, but comparing them because they both have beautiful female vocalists is insulting, it's apples and oranges! Delain were the absolute highlight last year for me other than Kamelot. I suspect Amaranthe will be 2012's early slot band to bring the house down, just like Voyager this year and Seventh Wonder last year!
 
I've seen them twice. Amaranthe is a fantastic live band with lots of stage presence. The kind of band you can enjoy live even if you don't care for their studio material. Nobody will be disappointed by them.
 
It has less to do with the band and more to do with the "hotness" factor of the band, which seems to be bumping them up the lineup a bit. I just would like to see someone at that position that has a little more of a track record and seasoning, that's all.

I don't get why their position is so surprising? People have been hyping them since their "Leave Everything Behind" demo in 2009. In addition to high chart positions, they're getting radio play in Sweden now, and they just announced that their "Hunger" video hit over 1 million views. They're a solid live band, and I look forward to seeing them again.

Also, hasn't something like this happened before, with people being skeptical in regards to Creation's End/Circus Maximus being booked despite not having albums out at the time? Idk.
 
I've seen them twice. Amaranthe is a fantastic live band with lots of stage presence. The kind of band you can enjoy live even if you don't care for their studio material. Nobody will be disappointed by them.

And this one of the reasons why I am glad I stayed for the Therion set. I had heard a few of there songs and did not see the big deal. But after watching them live, I am hooked. Great band and great stage show. Top rate class act.