You laugh, you lose...

[predator2353]

Were those the starcraft guys? If so, it probably feels bad to lose your best starcraft player!

 

[Marwen]

>implying there wasn't a man pointing a gun at them for that reaction
>implying North Koreans know how to make believable propaganda

If they were upset, I'd imagine it's because they're thinking "Oh god, now that he's dead how will we not feed ourselves?"

Woke up this morning and read that he died. Feels good man.

You seem to underestimate how brainwashed and blindly/stupidly/hypocritically patriotic people can be when they are ruled by a corrupt government whose only interests are its own wealth, power and continuity.

It's freaking hilarious to me how they were weeping because it looks like some kind of parody, not something real. But the truth is that it is in fact real, they do regard the guy (and his father) as a god.

It is a scientific fact that people are conditioned by their environment, and there is not much that these people's particular environment can produce other than that. Governments know how to exploit this fact. For instance I know people who would laugh at this just like I did but are themselves willing to give their lives to their government for a bullshit cause like the Iraq war.

As a witness/participant of the very first revolution that started the so-called Arab spring, I can tell you that the one thing that made the whole thing possible was the interwebz, namely Facebook, Twitter and Wikileaks. People in North Korea don't even have that, so there you go.

Even during the darkest of times, I suspect there almost always are those that secretly know better though but simply can't speak up, so I get what you're saying.

 

[Leandro]

>implying there wasn't a man pointing a gun at them for that reaction
>implying North Koreans know how to make believable propaganda

If they were upset, I'd imagine it's because they're thinking "Oh god, now that he's dead how will we not feed ourselves?"

Woke up this morning and read that he died. Feels good man.

Riiiiiiiiight, because you really know much about the geopolitics of southeast Asia. But hey, if Obamastar said he's a bad guy it must be true, right?

 

[snowy]

^
You don't really claim that Kimi was one of the good guys, do you?

 

[Leandro]

No, I know shit about the geopolitics of southeast Asia.

 

[CliffBurton]

 

[Marwen]

Riiiiiiiiight, because you really know much about the geopolitics of southeast Asia. But hey, if Obamastar said he's a bad guy it must be true, right?

Just because Obamastar said he, or, say, Assad and Qaddafi are bad guys does not mean they aren't. Just like any government, the Americans will admit/blackout things the way it suits their interests. "Geopolitics" is no gauge for truth.

 

[Leandro]

See? That's part of my point. Qaddafi was *not* a bad guy.

 

[snowy]

!!!!!!

 

[Leandro]

To lay bare the character of parliaments, one has to examine their origin. They are either elected from constituencies, a party, or a coalition of parties, or are appointed. But all of these procedures are undemocratic, for dividing the population into constituencies means that one member of parliament represents thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions
of people, depending on the size of the population. It also means that a member keeps few popular organizational links with the electors since he, like other members, is considered a representative of the whole people. This is what the prevailing traditional democracy requires. The masses are completely isolated from the representative and he, in turn, is totally removed from them. Immediately after winning the electors' votes the representative takes over the people's sovereignty and acts on their behalf.

The prevailing traditional democracy endows the member of parliament with a sacredness and immunity which are denied to the rest of the people. Parliaments, therefore, have become a means of plundering and usurping the authority of the people. It has thus become the right of the people to struggle, through popular revolution, to destroy such instruments - the so-called parliamentary assemblies which usurp democracy and sovereignty, and which stifle the will of the people. The masses have the right to proclaim reverberantly the new principle: no representation in lieu of the people."

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[Marwen]

And of course you believe him?

Qaddafi is an uneducated dictator with a slight mental unbalance and delusions of grandeur who tortures and mass-murders his own people.

But hey, I'm sure you know better than me (someone who lives right next to Libya and has a close look on what happens there) and the majority of the Libyans themselves.

 

[predator2353]

 

[Leandro]

And of course you believe him?

Qaddafi is an uneducated dictator with a slight mental unbalance and delusions of grandeur who tortures and mass-murders his own people.

But hey, I'm sure you know better than me (someone who lives right next to Libya and has a close look on what happens there) and the majority of the Libyans themselves.

Riiiiiight. Because Americans know much about American politics, but hey!

This is not a debate. This is more along the lines of "shut the fuck up, y'all are idiots and have no clue what the fuck you're talking about".

Protip: anybody who uses the expression "bad guy" and is not talking about fiction is a complete imbecile.

 

[CliffBurton]

I remember when I used to read this thread so I could get a laugh, not so I could read some shit debate with copy pasta.

www.reddit.com

There, I've cut out the middle man, now no need to come here gtfo.

 

[Night Reaper]

this.............

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[Marwen]

Riiiiiight. Because Americans know much about American politics

I'm betting you've never experienced being shot at with live bullets by police and you don't know if you or your family members will go home alive, all because your president (who has been ruling you with an iron fist for decades) doesn't like it when people peacefully ask him to leave power to an actually elected body.

When Americans experience a full-blown revolution you can be sure they'll be the first people I'll ask what happened, not my local biased media.

This is more along the lines of "shut the fuck up, y'all are idiots and have no clue what the fuck you're talking about".

Dude, putting words in my mouth is lame.

Believe what you want. I'm just giving you another angle. Make no mistake though, none of this "internet debating" matters.

Protip: anybody who uses the expression "bad guy" and is not talking about fiction is a complete imbecile.

You used it first?...

Anyway, back to funny shit.

 

[Leandro]

Just let it go mate.

 

[snowy]

Hey, what do you guys think about Adolf? He too wasnt a bad guy, right?

 

[Leandro]

You just lost the argument. Good day.

 

[nettitaikatalvi]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!