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THEOCRACY FTW!!!!!!!!!
Jul 6, 2011
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WHY ON EARTH IS IT THAT THEOCRACY IS FINALLY COMING SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO IOWA AND IT IS A 18+ CONCERT ONLY?!?!?!?!?

I mean, come on! I am even going to be in Tennessee around that time! :(
 
The age limit is pretty much always a decision of the local promoter/venue. From my own experience with shows here in my town, each promoter/venue has to weigh a series of benefits and negatives. As you lower the age (21+ to 18+ to all ages), you incur a bunch of new restrictions at each level such as how late the bands can play, when/where you can serve alcohol (you have to create a separate area away from the stage for alcohol with ID checks at every entry point, increasing your staff costs), etc. They have to weigh the number of people they gain by lowering the age vs. the number of people they lose with added restrictions as well as added costs. A lot of 21+ people hate going to all ages shows due to the restrictions. A good example is forcing the bands to stop playing at 9pm or 10pm. If you have more than two bands on the bill, that pretty much means that each gets less time on stage as the trade-off for all ages.

For most shows I've done, it didn't make any sense to go all ages unless we knew it would net us like 25 extra people. For power metal shows with an attendance of 100-300, that's just not the case. It might net us 5-10 more people, which just isn't worth it. Sad, but true :(

At least, that's how it works in Minnesota. I'm assuming there are similar rules in place in other states.
 
I guess you are referring to the show in Nashville at the Rutledge?

I didn't know about this. I better bring my I.D. :D

Some places just put a stamp or a black X on minors hands to keep alcohol off them, but I guess some places don't risk it. Sorry you can't go, kid.

EDIT- Does anybody know any information about the show? It doesn't say anything on Theocracy's site except the date and place?
 
WHY ON EARTH IS IT THAT THEOCRACY IS FINALLY COMING SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO IOWA AND IT IS A 18+ CONCERT ONLY?!?!?!?!?

I mean, come on! I am even going to be in Tennessee around that time! :(

Dude, that's such a huge bummer. I HIGHLY doubt the Theocracy guys had anything to do with it. It's probably the venue or the promoter...
 
The age limit is pretty much always a decision of the local promoter/venue. From my own experience with shows here in my town, each promoter/venue has to weigh a series of benefits and negatives. As you lower the age (21+ to 18+ to all ages), you incur a bunch of new restrictions at each level such as how late the bands can play, when/where you can serve alcohol (you have to create a separate area away from the stage for alcohol with ID checks at every entry point, increasing your staff costs), etc. They have to weigh the number of people they gain by lowering the age vs. the number of people they lose with added restrictions as well as added costs. A lot of 21+ people hate going to all ages shows due to the restrictions. A good example is forcing the bands to stop playing at 9pm or 10pm. If you have more than two bands on the bill, that pretty much means that each gets less time on stage as the trade-off for all ages.

For most shows I've done, it didn't make any sense to go all ages unless we knew it would net us like 25 extra people. For power metal shows with an attendance of 100-300, that's just not the case. It might net us 5-10 more people, which just isn't worth it. Sad, but true :(

At least, that's how it works in Minnesota. I'm assuming there are similar rules in place in other states.

In Michigan, there doesn’t seem to be any restrictions when venues throw all ages shows. Other than IDing people and they do that anyway. They generally start earlier and end earlier, but by earlier I mean the show ends at about 12 – 1 am, as opposed to going until 2 am. Last all ages show I played went until 12:30am.
 
That is probably your best bet...call the venue.

Offer to pay a little extra for you can get in...I've done it in the past an it has worked, but that was many many years ago.
 
I have emailed the venue and waiting on a response. i'm over forty and my kids are 12 and 14. we all want to go but before i drive over 9 hours i need a final answer. i dont blame Theocracy there justing wanting to play. I think we should also start talking to our youth ministers at church and get other churches to spread the word and get them to come to our town. connecting with the youth is going to grow Theocracy's popularity and get them playing concerts around the states. Theocracy is a very unique christian band by that they dont hide the word of God in there lyrics. Which i love.
 
I talked to someone affiliated with the venue and one of the Nashville-based bands. They're looking into what can be done, if anything. It may take some time, so be patient.

But all ages shows there have to been done by 11pm, so that's why it's not all ages.
 
Thanks for the tips! My trip to Tennessee was moved, so I wouldn't actually be able to now anyway.....:(

Hope it is a great show though! (Somebody will just have to video it and send it to me.....:D)
 
We just received this update from the promoters of the February 15th show in Nashville regarding the 18+ policy; "UPDATE 12/23/2012 : AGE POLICY CLARIFICATION - To be clear, the age policy for The Rutledge is 18 and up for this show. However, much like with Rated-R movies, those under age WILL BE PERMITTED with a parent or legal guardian. Once inside the venue, parents/guardians are required to remain with the minors they are responsible for. Again, if you are under the age of 18 and wish to come to the show, you must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. And we would love to see you all there!!"