A rather unique exsperience has presented itself to me.

[Loren Littlejohn]

My girlfriend has asked that I record here sister singing opera . Of course I jumped at it because how many people get to say they did that?

And now I don't know how (other than trial and error) it should be mixed. I do it Thursday this week.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Thanks Hexthenet sorry the forum wasn't letting you post dude.

I wouldn't dare use autotune, I would get shot it's for an audition or something like that so they want to hear the natural voice, they probably would suspect something if she was 100% in tune for 8 mins. lol

Probably will put a touch of compresson however I don't want to squash the dynamics so even that... I am unsure. We are not doing it in a hall we are doing it in a home so it should be interesting to say the least.

 

[joeymusicguy]

singing without auto tune? ewwww

:runs away:

 

[wishtheend]

Opera singers get loud! Make sure you get all the gain set properly. I would think instead of closing micing, you may want to back off a little bit. Maybe try both a close mic and LDC back a bit. Also depends on where you record. I think if you can find a nice big room with a nice reverb. Just try to keep everything as natural as possible and keep the plugins to just maybe some EQ and light compression if singing with music. If acapella, I doubt you'll have to do much to it.

 

[everybody's x]

what he said^

keep it simple, put her in a big live room LDC a foot back. let her rip print it.

I would not mess around with eq compression and all that keep it real

 

[Keessi]

I'd have 2 exact same microphones at the same spot basically. One for the loud and one for the soft singing. So you'll have the low noise floor.

 

[JBroll]

Have her sing into a pop screen, replace it with a real opera singer so she gets the audition.

Jeff

 

[TheDude]

I did a recording once with one opera singer and a classic guitar. I had some problems with her microphone technique, 'cause she wasn't use to be standing still in front of anything

So here's for the tip: Put her in a "Hannibal the Cannibal" rig (with the head fixated) and put the mic just two feet away. Use a compressor that's kicking in only just before she overloads the input. High threshold and ratio that is. Just in case she's going nuclear

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

singing without auto tune? ewwww

:runs away:

I guess you have never recorded a real singer then.

Fuck autotune unless it's for subtle changes, if you can't sing in tune then don't sing.

We already have enough shit to "make things perfect" without fucking with the human voice: Just my 2 cents.

 

[Exocaster]

I guess you have never recorded a real singer then.

Fuck autotune unless it's for subtle changes, if you can't sing in tune then don't sing.

We already have enough shit to "make things perfect" without fucking with the human voice: Just my 2 cents.

If you feel the need to auto-tune an opera singer, there's a hack in the room somewhere, and probably not behind the mic.

Auto-tune's a useful tool for fixing a less than perfect take that otherwise works for the recording, but it has no place in classical music. That's a genre that's so hard-core about reproducing the sound authentically you'll occasionally see "no compression or EQ was used" in the liner notes.

 

[joeymusicguy]

If you feel the need to auto-tune an opera singer, there's a hack in the room somewhere, and probably not behind the mic.

Auto-tune's a useful tool for fixing a less than perfect take that otherwise works for the recording, but it has no place in classical music. That's a genre that's so hard-core about reproducing the sound authentically you'll occasionally see "no compression or EQ was used" in the liner notes.

yeah i totally didnt read his post to realize it was opera that he was recording

using too much compresion on opera vocals can actually change your perception of the notes that are intended to be heard. so can distance (but it would have to be a huge distance).

i love autotune. a lot of the rock (hinder), hard rock, emo (my chemical romance), screamo (who the fuck knows?), and even metalcore (all that remains) have auto tune. you're definately entitled to your opinion, and i agree that auto tune on opera would fucking seriously suck. but i must say, no human is perfect, and a lot of good singers arent actually that good because singing in tune with perfectly tuned instruments in a very clear recording isnt easy at all and takes way longer to get useable tracks before the voice is shot or sounds different in each part.

but i digress

i seriously doubt you're recording great singers (not referring to the bands i listed) day in and out. even the best singer i've had in the studio had to have auto tune for 2 parts of a song.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

If you feel the need to auto-tune an opera singer, there's a hack in the room somewhere, and probably not behind the mic.

Auto-tune's a useful tool for fixing a less than perfect take that otherwise works for the recording, but it has no place in classical music. That's a genre that's so hard-core about reproducing the sound authentically you'll occasionally see "no compression or EQ was used" in the liner notes.

Exactly I don't intend to auto tune an opera singer.

 

[JBroll]

yeah i totally didnt read his post to realize it was opera that he was recording

using too much compresion on opera vocals can actually change your perception of the notes that are intended to be heard. so can distance (but it would have to be a huge distance).

i love autotune. a lot of the rock (hinder), hard rock, emo (my chemical romance), screamo (who the fuck knows?), and even metalcore (all that remains) have auto tune. you're definately entitled to your opinion, and i agree that auto tune on opera would fucking seriously suck. but i must say, no human is perfect, and a lot of good singers arent actually that good because singing in tune with perfectly tuned instruments in a very clear recording isnt easy at all and takes way longer to get useable tracks before the voice is shot or sounds different in each part. i seriously doubt you're recording great singers day in and out. even the best singer i've had in the studio had to have auto tune for 2 parts of a song.

Yeah, because when I think 'Fucking Great Singer, Dude!' the band My Chemical Romance comes to mind. I wish I could be looking for a singer back in the day when I didn't have to worry about some fucking asshat coming along, saying he's pro and couldn't be beaten, and then operating under the assumption that anything he does can be autotuned later. Fuck cheap fixes.

Jeff

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Yeah, because when I think 'Fucking Great Singer, Dude!' the band My Chemical Romance comes to mind. I wish I could be looking for a singer back in the day when I didn't have to worry about some fucking asshat coming along, saying he's pro and couldn't be beaten, and then operating under the assumption that anything he does can be autotuned later. Fuck cheap fixes.

Jeff

Yeah actually I see the bands he just posted and Hinder sucks... like sucks better than Paris Hilton. Plus My Chemical Romance? That shit sucks.

 

[Wolfeman]

My Chemical Romance? That shit sucks.

I wish I would be making HALF the money those guys were....

I'm almost considering turing gay and emo to make it big like they did.






That was a joke....... Please don't take it serious

 

[joeymusicguy]

Yeah actually I see the bands he just posted and Hinder sucks... like sucks better than Paris Hilton. Plus My Chemical Romance? That shit sucks.

i agree dude, but if i sat around telling people my opinion of their music i wouldnt be making any money. who am i to tell someone they suck just because i dont like it?

oh well, u or i dont have to like it, but its our job to ensure the best recording of whoever we're working with. maybe im the only one on this board that records other styles of music other than metal, but without auto tune i'd probably lose some return customers, cuz they'd go somewhere else that uses auto tune.

doesnt matter to me, i like it. and at the same time, i agree that it sucks. thats life lol.

 

[joeymusicguy]

Yeah, because when I think 'Fucking Great Singer, Dude!' the band My Chemical Romance comes to mind. I wish I could be looking for a singer back in the day when I didn't have to worry about some fucking asshat coming along, saying he's pro and couldn't be beaten, and then operating under the assumption that anything he does can be autotuned later. Fuck cheap fixes.

Jeff

lol didnt say he was a great singer, in fact none of the bands i listed are very good at anything other than selling albums....

i like selling cd's, and making money too!

yeah cheap fixes are cheap. do your bands have unlimited budgets?