ADAM S3A and metal productions

blackcom

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I'm considering new monitors anda lot of people on forums rave about those ADAm S3A's...however, I don't know about alot of metal producions which involve them, so I thought I'd ask Andy, James and the rest of you if you have any experience with them....?
 
I think they're a great set of speakers, however i don't think you can blame production flaws (if that's what you meant) on the speakers, especially not the ADAM's, it's all about how well you know your speakers, not as much what kind you use, more so when you get up to this pricelevel.
 
blackcom said:
I'm considering new monitors anda lot of people on forums rave about those ADAm S3A's...however, I don't know about alot of metal producions which involve them, so I thought I'd ask Andy, James and the rest of you if you have any experience with them....?

Interesting, the HFunit is an unconventional ribbontweeter, it seems that it doesn't suffer from the very narrow dispertionpattern normal ribbons have. Ribbons have in general a very good transient- and impulseresponse. I'll give them a listen when I meet a pair. I think it will let cymbals & stuff sound more articulated, giving less listeningfatigue while mixing.
 
As was already stated at Gearslutz, these are great monitors, and are extremely versatile. Every monitor takes a little while(or sometimes longer) to learn, but there are ones that make it easier for one's mixes to translate on other systems. The S3A's are one of those. They're not hyped, and are very accurate. You can't lose with them.
 
I've heard the ADAM stuff is good stuff...but I heard the parts are really cheap, I haven't gotten to spend much time with them, I'm assuming they're at least good enough,

although as far as high end monitors go, if you're spending that much money, grab Klein + Hummel, because they sound sicker (and flatter) than most of the stuff that's that expensive.

although you can't go wrong with NS-10's haha
 
From my experience with Klein and Hummels(2 sessions), I've found them almost too flat. The S3A's react and perform the way I expect recording/mixing monitors to, and are accentuated in just the right areas to make mixing clear and easier than with many other monitors. I'll leave the overly flat monitors for the ME's, just give me something that makes my tracking or mixing go smoother.
 
Exsanguis said:
but there are ones that make it easier for one's mixes to translate on other systems. The S3A's are one of those.

Yeah, isen't that like the essence of mixing....translation?

I can see Andy uses 1031's...I tried the follow ups, the 8050, any opinion about how they compare to the ADAM's (the 8050's)...do they translate as good? They cost a lot less...
 
blackcom said:
Yeah, isen't that like the essence of mixing....translation?

I can see Andy uses 1031's...I tried the follow ups, the 8050, any opinion about how they compare to the ADAM's (the 8050's)...do they translate as good? They cost a lot less...

Genelecs are probably the closest you'll find to "industry standard" monitors these days other than the NS-10's. I started out on NS-10's, then changed to Genelec's, which I REALLY didn't like. I found them too hyped or bright to have any kind of real control over the translation of mixes. I felt like I wasn't hearing important pieces of the audio, and then when i went back to NS-10's and ADAM's, all of the sudden, everything was clearer. The Genelec's obviously work for Andy and many other people, but I personally have a tough time with them. I've done decent mixes on them, but they were harder to do than they would have been with other monitors.
 
Aside from having used K+H, Adam, Yamaha, and Dynaudio, in commercial settings,

I forgot to mention that I use Event's 20/20b.a.s. monitors as well as their TR6 monitors (usually with the portable rig up at school)...I happen to like those a lot...just saying haha
 
I have the Event precision 8,Yamaha NS 10's and Studiophile B5. As stated before, all of them take getting used too. Yamahas sound "flat" because they have the paper type cone. Studiophiles sound brittle, but I learned with time to work around that. They shredded my ears to peices!! As far as whats best, too me its all about being able to mix for long hours with minimal ear fatigue. Event Presicion 8 rule in this department. Yamahas are also good but it takes some getting use to the lack of low end response. Im planning on getting a sub woofer to solve that problem! Good luck in your quest for the perfect monitors. Since its the only thing in any studio you actually hear, its worth getting the best you can afford. :rock:
 
Precisions are very nice, thoes are the lacquered black ones with the double ported cab?

I liked them but they were too big for my control room (yea it's that small)...

the TR6's I enjoyed, because they were kind of like ballsier more colored NS-10's while still remaining a level of clarity and punch...

The 20/20's I love to death (I've done all my stuff on them since 2001), but I think that the low end representation is a little excessive sometimes.
 
ShokaiShimizu said:
Precisions are very nice, thoes are the lacquered black ones with the double ported cab?

I liked them but they were too big for my control room (yea it's that small)...

the TR6's I enjoyed, because they were kind of like ballsier more colored NS-10's while still remaining a level of clarity and punch...

The 20/20's I love to death (I've done all my stuff on them since 2001), but I think that the low end representation is a little excessive sometimes.

I agree, they are a bit bulky, I had to modify my desk so they fit, My control room isnt big at all either. As far as low end goes they do have both high and low adjustments in the back. Aso a HP filter. I try to train my ears by playing a finished album that I like (an Andy Sneap production maybe)and try and familiarize myself with the dynamics. So far theyve been translating very good to CD. But they are by far the most comfortable monitors Ive worked with. My buddy Joey vera also using the 20/20's he really digs them too and his productions are always great!
 
ShokaiShimizu said:
Joey Vera, like Joey Vera Joey Vera?

rock on man...

he's the shit.
Yeah Joey Vera, Joey Vera, He's the one of the reasons I got the Events. He's been a huge help in getting me up and running with home studio. And everybody on this forum has also helped a great deal! :rock:
 
that's killer man...

there's actually a new Event model out, I think known as the ALP5 (Active Linear Phase), with somewhere around a 5" driver, haven't heard anything else about.
 
I havent heard anything the APLS5 yet. Im surprised nobody has mention the Mackie HR82. They seem to be popular in the professional world. I did an A/B test with them and the Events and I personally prefered the Events.
 
The Mackie's are a bit too muffled in the lows for my taste, i actually prefer the 624's to the 824's, i guess you could say the 624's are more like the genelec 1031's.
I'm not a big fan of genelec's tho, the best genelec set up i've used was actually a set of 1029's with a 7050 sub, then again a lot of it lies in calibration of the speakers...
 
Yea...those Mackies...

On the last cd I recorded I mixed one tune at a studio that had both Yamaha NS-10's and Mackie HR824's, I have to say honestly I really did not like the 824's at all, they were very boomy (not like the Events where it's more solid and connected to the rest of the frequency rage either), and the high end response was just painful. So I used the NS-10's.

However, I did do a fair bit of mix work earlier this year on a pair of HR624's, the have a much mrore pleasing sound to them definitely.