Adding definition to toms
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Skinny Viking
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you know they're two different things right?
try EQing before the comp so you're only compressing the frequencies you want
Glenn Fricker
Very Metal &Very Bad News
New skins (seriously, if your skins are old, don't even bother), proper tuning & Sennheiser 421's.
roy22341
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Absolutely a great mic for toms. I love the sound you can from them, especially if you manage to find some older ones that had been used in bars or smokey lounges. Something about that atmosphere somehow gets absorbed into the mic for added awesome.
I found a 609 works great on smaller toms too.
AudioGeekZine
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The StabbinCabin
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C_F_H_13
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Yep to both of these. Transient shaping with something like SPL transient designer on the close mics, and then blending in room mics or room samples make's alot of different.
I find toms need to the right reverb too.
Uros
Sonic Incision
Jaymz
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KHE
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before working on the toms high-end / attack, have a look at the low-end!
chances are high that the toms have some resonance-problems in the low-end/low-midrange (shell-, room- and tuning-dependend).
if you have a (fast) tom-roll, frequencys summs up and masking each other = missing definition. if you now boosting the toms lowend, things get worser.
try to reduce these resonances on the toms as early as possible (tuning, room ect, but also first plugin).
search these frequencys with a narrow parametric eq-boost. if a frequency sticks out, cut it.
it`s a bit try-and-error, because toms needs natural resonance. but there is often too much going-on at these frequencys, so you have find a good balance.
after that see how the (otherwise still raw-toms) works together with the other tracks.
start EQing them. Transient-shaping, saturation and reverb are your friends
(i`m not using compression often on the toms, only parallel-comp. but no rules...!)
but if the drummer hitted the toms like a little girl, you`re fucked...
edit: check out emrins amazing mixing series, lots of tipps! http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...ng-series-2-soviet-russia-drums-slam-you.html
and check the phase in relation to the overheads....
chances are high that the toms have some resonance-problems in the low-end/low-midrange (shell-, room- and tuning-dependend).
if you have a (fast) tom-roll, frequencys summs up and masking each other = missing definition. if you now boosting the toms lowend, things get worser.
try to reduce these resonances on the toms as early as possible (tuning, room ect, but also first plugin).
search these frequencys with a narrow parametric eq-boost. if a frequency sticks out, cut it.
it`s a bit try-and-error, because toms needs natural resonance. but there is often too much going-on at these frequencys, so you have find a good balance.
after that see how the (otherwise still raw-toms) works together with the other tracks.
start EQing them. Transient-shaping, saturation and reverb are your friends
(i`m not using compression often on the toms, only parallel-comp. but no rules...!)but if the drummer hitted the toms like a little girl, you`re fucked...
edit: check out emrins amazing mixing series, lots of tipps! http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...ng-series-2-soviet-russia-drums-slam-you.html
and check the phase in relation to the overheads....
