All he wanted was some chocolate milk...
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Chryst Krispies
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Sorry, but I can't take DBZ life lessons srsly at all. That just made me LOL epic. Whatever though. It's all good. I still think scumbags should die.
RemoWilliams
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But yeah, I knew I'd still get some "Pukes" and some "it's a happy ending, self-defense, case closed" responses, but what can I say, I just feel that's an oversimplification, and a denial of what makes us human, our potential for compassion and, on the other side, to reflect on our actions, and hopefully realize the wrong in them.
Unfortunately, the only story I can share that really makes me feel this way is an epically nerdy synopsis of Dragon Ball Z, but I still think it's applicable; Piccolo is the absolute archnemesis of Goku (the series protagonist) in the original Dragon Ball series, and after their final battle, Goku has the advantage but still shows him mercy in the hopes that he can change. Many years pass, and Piccolo bitterly secludes himself, but with the arrival of a new threat to the Earth, he's forced to join forces with Goku (in a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" arrangement) to battle this new threat. The threat is defeated, but warns of more coming in a year, and the battle costs Goku his life (though the beauty of the show is anyone who has died can be wished back with the Dragon Balls, useful skill that)
However, what I'm getting at here is Piccolo, still bent on world domination, recognizes the upcoming threat, and sees that Goku's young son Gohan has enormous untapped potential, and takes him for that year to train the son of his sworn enemy for the good of the planet. And through that year, he develops a friendship and affection for Gohan, and it's the beginning of his change to becoming unquestionably the series' most noble, heroic, and badass characters (there's much more to it than that, of course, it's very believable, but that's the short version). And then when Vegeta, one of the invaders who arrives after a year, is finally beaten, Goku urges his friend Krillin, who has a sword to Vegeta's neck, to spare him, because if Piccolo could change, then Vegeta deserves the same chance. And as the series goes on (though it takes 8 seasons) Vegeta too changes, but the development is so long and believable and the payoff so epic and moving that it's just incredible. So yup, life lessons as taught by DBZ!
I just had the funniest image of a long montage of Phil talking the robber out of his gun and escorting him to the police. Later Phil visits the robber in prison and posts bail for him. Phil then goes on to how the robber how to play guitar, how to babysit, how to hold a steady job, eventually becoming a roadie for Malevolent Creation. Even one night he gets to stand in for Phil, using all that he has learned from him. But later in the tour, he has an argument in a convenient store over change and is shot by the clerk. Phil dedicates a solo to him during an intimate Malevolent Creation show.
The End.
Yes I know, it certainly has a nerdy stigma to overcome, but I would like to think the overall message (it's not weak to have compassion, because Goku is still the series' strongest character) shines through.
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Right or wrong doesn't matter really.
What he says: "I would like to put this behind me and not talk about it any more. It was the most fucked up thing I have ever been involved with, besides my ex-girlfriend!!"
There's the essence of the whole thing. Killing another human being isn't something we're supposed to feel good about.
My 0.02
What he says: "I would like to put this behind me and not talk about it any more. It was the most fucked up thing I have ever been involved with, besides my ex-girlfriend!!"
There's the essence of the whole thing. Killing another human being isn't something we're supposed to feel good about.
My 0.02
P-E
Munchkin
Fuck yeah! (chocolate milk 
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I would too feel bad for the robber a bit if he didn't try to kill anybody. But yeah killing someone won't make you feel good, even if it's "heroic".
Life for a life should remain the rule
The innocent victim that is what's cruel
Look to the past is what we should do
When justice was done and justice was true
)I would too feel bad for the robber a bit if he didn't try to kill anybody. But yeah killing someone won't make you feel good, even if it's "heroic".
Life for a life should remain the rule
The innocent victim that is what's cruel
Look to the past is what we should do
When justice was done and justice was true
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
Fuck yeah! (chocolate milk
I would too feel bad for the robber a bit if he didn't try to kill anybody.
But he did, he just sucked badly at shooting. If he would've had good aim, Phil would be dead now. Better a worthless scumbag burglar than a decent honest man who actually doesn't fuck other people over to earn his money
P-E
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GarethSE
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The threat is defeated, but warns of more coming in a year, and the battle costs Goku his life (though the beauty of the show is anyone who has died can be wished back with the Dragon Balls, useful skill that
the cell saga? D:
Noooooooooooooo, way before that, the Saiyan saga when we first meet Vegeta (though the initial threat is actually Goku's Saiyan brother, Raditz)
The Cell saga is another epic self-sacrifice though, in typical Goku fashion, and when Gohan just explodes with rage...damn, mega nerd-chub
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Noooooooooooooo, way before that, the Saiyan saga when we first meet Vegeta (though the initial threat is actually Goku's Saiyan brother, Raditz)
haha all i remember of dbz is the cell saga
and the fact that it was on all day on cartoon network from early in the morning til late at night
i remember it taking like entire episodes for them to take single punches
and every time someone got hit they took another half hour comforting them and wiping blood off their faces and trading insults and having it build up again
funny as fuck
Hahahahaha, and don't forget administering the ever-useful (but sparingly used) Senzu beans! Nah, but if it were on tv, and I had to deal with commercials, and not having them back to back, then yeah, the ridiculous dragging out of stuff would kill me (especially powering up, that was by far the worst, and I could never take seriously the voice actors roaring...breathe in...roaring...breathe in, it just always made me think of some chubby bald guy doing the Vegeta roar, rather than Vegeta himself and Chris Sabat, the voice of Vegeta, is infact a chubby bald guy )
However, since I've been watching them at my own pace for the first and now second times on DVD, it hasn't bothered me too often, though I know the Frieza saga got pretty ridiculous, and they all tended to drag things out a bit, when I was just so eager for a resolution. But now that I'm watching the episodes again knowing what the outcome is gonna be, I can focus instead on the details, and realize that a lot of what made those episodes so drawn out is they had lots of secondary stories to keep track of, that all involved different characters, and I really appreciated that they included everybody, so I wouldn't want to do without them. But again, on TV, blehh, I'd never have the patience! (especially while this blazed :Smokedev: )
Nah, but if it were on tv, and I had to deal with commercials, and not having them back to back, then yeah, the ridiculous dragging out of stuff would kill me (especially powering up, that was by far the worst, and I could never take seriously the voice actors roaring...breathe in...roaring...breathe in, it just always made me think of some chubby bald guy doing the Vegeta roar, rather than Vegeta himself and Chris Sabat, the voice of Vegeta, is infact a chubby bald guy ) However, since I've been watching them at my own pace for the first and now second times on DVD, it hasn't bothered me too often, though I know the Frieza saga got pretty ridiculous, and they all tended to drag things out a bit, when I was just so eager for a resolution. But now that I'm watching the episodes again knowing what the outcome is gonna be, I can focus instead on the details, and realize that a lot of what made those episodes so drawn out is they had lots of secondary stories to keep track of, that all involved different characters, and I really appreciated that they included everybody, so I wouldn't want to do without them. But again, on TV, blehh, I'd never have the patience! (especially while this blazed :Smokedev: )
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
true...but in cases such as this, he shouldn't feel bad about what he did, either
i'm sure he'll feel some level of guilt for taking another man's life for the rest of his life, but when it comes down to it, the only rule of the natural world is kill or be killed
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
I just still barely believe you busted out with DBZ analogy to justify yourself. That takes balls!
Whatever man, I was just sharing a story that I found meaning in and enjoyed that I felt had a good and relevant message - some people like Final Fantasy, some people like The Lord of the Rings, some people like Star Wars, and some people like watching men in tights and helmets bash each other for 3 hours, and trying to decide which is less cool or socially acceptable than another seems ridiculous and pointless; if someone gets a positive emotional response from something, then who cares what it is?
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Yeah, it was clearly self defence, but you know, the SOUND of a bullet destroying a head, or passing by for that matter. The SMELL of death (maybe the dead dude pissed/shit himself? The smell of blood?), and the SOUND of a lifeless body smacking into the floor? Stuff that will take a long time to get rid of, but seems to be neglected when it's "just another scumbag biting the dust, good riddance".
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