mdmatt4ever
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All hype...
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I downloaded it because, well, I just did. I'm surprised at how much I like it. I'm still sifting through it, but it is better than I expected. I downloaded from iTunes.
sixxswine
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Is the time in making this worth the end result?! I think not. I think this isn't worth the wait, what do you think? However the end result is a good Axl solo album.
sixxswine
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Looks like they'll be on TV tonight.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=109466
I have set my Tivo.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=109466
I have set my Tivo.
The fact that I even bought this record defies logic, since I really don't think anything worthwhile has come out with the Guns N' Roses label since Appetite. I'm not sure I think Axl is a tool, or an idiot, or even an egomaniac, but I do think he's an eccentric...at least that's the best descriptor I can come up with for him, not knowing too much about him.
All that said, judged apart from Appetite, and as a band with only on original member...which is to say, this is a completely different thing...I think, after several listens, that this is a phenomenal album.
I doubt many will agree with me, but I'm quite serious. It's intelligent, moody, forward thinking, full of cool riffs, odd murky Sabbathy moments, good ballads, good anger fueled songs, social commentary, poetry, etc.
Seriously, I really am completely surprised.
I'm sure you'll all think I'm a bonehead, but after just a few listens, I'm positive this will be in my year end top ten. If there was hype around this album, it was only that it took so long to make. Anybody expecting the second coming was kidding themselves. And I don't mean the second coming of GNR, I mean it was silly to expect it to be some religious event.
It is, however, an absolutely excellent rock record in every way. It's not a "singles" record...it's a rich...album! I hope people will give it a chance. I place it on par with the new Uriah Heep; good rock music, catchy and accessible throughout (without going for sacharine singles), and a complete and utter surprise.
All that said, judged apart from Appetite, and as a band with only on original member...which is to say, this is a completely different thing...I think, after several listens, that this is a phenomenal album.
I doubt many will agree with me, but I'm quite serious. It's intelligent, moody, forward thinking, full of cool riffs, odd murky Sabbathy moments, good ballads, good anger fueled songs, social commentary, poetry, etc.
Seriously, I really am completely surprised.
I'm sure you'll all think I'm a bonehead, but after just a few listens, I'm positive this will be in my year end top ten. If there was hype around this album, it was only that it took so long to make. Anybody expecting the second coming was kidding themselves. And I don't mean the second coming of GNR, I mean it was silly to expect it to be some religious event.
It is, however, an absolutely excellent rock record in every way. It's not a "singles" record...it's a rich...album! I hope people will give it a chance. I place it on par with the new Uriah Heep; good rock music, catchy and accessible throughout (without going for sacharine singles), and a complete and utter surprise.
Thoth-Amon
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I'm slowly warming up to it. Overrall I'd say its a good modern hard rock album... but doesn't even come close to the classic GNR albums.
skezzmo
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Downloaded it, listened to it and I'd give it a 7/10, and that's generous due to the fact that its GnR and after years of listening to Appetite I have a slight bias to like it. Really though besides Axl's vocals (which still kick ass) it didn't really seem to bare any resemblance to any previous GnR. I thought the lyrics were a bunch of political bullshit and it seemed more like an experiment album or maybe an Axl Rose side project. It felt like they hired Bono to write an album for them to me, so decent, but not good enough for 15 or so years of waiting.
TheInsane
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While I do agree that alot of it has moved away from the GNR we all knew I do think there are way more than just Axl's vocals that identify this as GNR. I mainly think of the piano work used throughout the album but also the big arrangements. Sure it wasnt a part of Apetite but was all over the place on the Use Your Illusion discs. I think that part has been taken one step further while the more straight forward rock tracks have become more modern sounding (in lack of a better term).
skezzmo
The Duke of Suede
Yeah, I've only listened to it once through, I guess I'll sit down with it again and really pick at it. The political thing also doesn't actually surprise me though because of songs like "Civil War", I figured once Axl had total control of the band it would turn more and more towards that. On the plus side I was just reading about it on wikipedia and apparently Buckethead did some of the guitar tracks before he quit the band, and Buckethead is awesome, hence the album becomes slightly improved in my eyes.
mdmatt4ever
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i've never heard anything like this before. its a great modern album and it doesn't have as much filler as the 2 use your illusions
I think that this will be judged better as time goes on. I get serious goosebumps from it.
I understand if people identify with the original band, or what have you, but keep in mind they haven't been in tact in any significant way since the first album.
One of the interesting things to me is that people say they miss Slash, but I think the Velvet Revolver albums are boring, and average at best. Whereas this, well, it really is a fantastic modern rock album. To my ear there is no wasted space on it. Apparently Axl is the talented one. Ha.
All I can say is that I hope people will give it a chance. "took too long," "Isn't Guns N' Roses," none of these are, I think, fair commentaries on the album. Who gives a hoot how long it took? I mean, to be fair, I wasn't waiting for it, because I didn't there to ever be anything I'd like with the GNR label on it again.
I haven't read any really good explanations about why it sucks to the people who think so, other than the things I mentioned above.
For my part, I'm floored by it. Really. It's the only thing I'm listening to right now, and that says a lot, because I did expect it to suck. But suck it does not!
You know, the zep albums, for the most part, are about as different from one another as you can get. Why are people so against modern artists doing that? I don't get it. Honestly, that is such a foreign concept to me.
Incidentally, I think Axl's singing is absolutely fantastic on it. He uses a ton of different voices, and sings some of his highest stuff ever. Plus, it's intelligent and multi-layered.
I understand if people identify with the original band, or what have you, but keep in mind they haven't been in tact in any significant way since the first album.
One of the interesting things to me is that people say they miss Slash, but I think the Velvet Revolver albums are boring, and average at best. Whereas this, well, it really is a fantastic modern rock album. To my ear there is no wasted space on it. Apparently Axl is the talented one. Ha.
All I can say is that I hope people will give it a chance. "took too long," "Isn't Guns N' Roses," none of these are, I think, fair commentaries on the album. Who gives a hoot how long it took? I mean, to be fair, I wasn't waiting for it, because I didn't there to ever be anything I'd like with the GNR label on it again.
I haven't read any really good explanations about why it sucks to the people who think so, other than the things I mentioned above.
For my part, I'm floored by it. Really. It's the only thing I'm listening to right now, and that says a lot, because I did expect it to suck. But suck it does not!
You know, the zep albums, for the most part, are about as different from one another as you can get. Why are people so against modern artists doing that? I don't get it. Honestly, that is such a foreign concept to me.
Incidentally, I think Axl's singing is absolutely fantastic on it. He uses a ton of different voices, and sings some of his highest stuff ever. Plus, it's intelligent and multi-layered.
sixxswine
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I didn't like the industrial stuff on the album it's dated...
Leave that stuff to Nine Inch Nails and Ministry they do it best...
Leave that stuff to Nine Inch Nails and Ministry they do it best...
poundingmetal74
Demons Will Fly
Well yeah, except Ron Thal replaced him, and Ron Thal > Buckethead.
I've given it two listens through on their myspace. I'm not very impressed by it. Won't even get near my top 10 this year. I'm all for Axl trying new things, but this should not be called Guns N' Roses - aside from the member thing, this has virtually none of the properties of Guns N' Roses (no attitude, blues licks are few and far between, electronica, etc.)
ELecWiz, in terms of Zeppelin: Zeppelin made different albums, but it still sounded like Zeppelin. If you put a different singer on their later albums it would have still sounded like Zeppelin. This sounds nothing like the Guns N Roses I grew up with, and if you had put Trent Reznor on vocals, you'd never guess this was done by Axl.
It's a neat album and reinvention but I seriously doubt anyone will care about this album in another year or two.
sixxswine
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Right. I think this will sell a couple million copies but in the end it's gonna be a commercial failure. There's no way they'll recoupe the money invested in this record. Rightly so it's a mixed bag...
poundingmetal74
Demons Will Fly
The way I look at it: if GNR had released this in 1993 instead of Spaghetti, people would have went "What the fuck is this?!" and the disc would have flopped like The Spaghetti Incident.
sixxswine
rockandrollazine.blogspot
Right, though I myself never considered T.S.I. as a proper release, I took much like Lies as an album to tied people over until the next proper release...
poundingmetal74
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