Amp Heads and Cab help

[Anvil]

Now, I'm not much of an electronic guy when it comes to this kind of stuff, but I haven't really researched much either. I've been playing guitar for about 5 years, and looking to purchase a good stack. Here where I live in Canada, its extremely hard to find places to test out equipment, and I'm often left to purchase without any knowledge beyond specs and photos. Its a real drag. I play really heavy riffing, and need something with heavy crunch and to overpower the drums.

So I was told by a few neverboarders to come here and ask the questions.

First off, I've been looking at the Ibanez TB100H head and the Marshall MG412 cab.

But Since I know nothing of quality and such, thats why I'm here. I'm looking to keep the price under $1000 for the whole stack. Specifically solid-state, because I also doubt I'll find a tube amp for that cheap in the first place.

Here's a list of the effect pedals I use.

Ibanez:

Smash Box
Chorus/Flanger
Phaser
Tubescreamer (Modified)
Weeping Demon Wah​

Boss:

Distortion
ME-30 multi-effects pedal​

so any and ALL help will be great. Suggestions to both a head or a cab, while keeping under a grand would be great.

 

[Liverslapper]

out of the ibanex and the marshall, i would go with the Marshall MG412, i played one of those and had an awesome crunch.

but personally i would get the Krankenstien head and cabinet, but thats a good 4 grand in musicans friend.

 

[Fragle]

mh...i dunno about canadian prices, but when talking about bang for the buck the peavey 5150 is the first thing that comes to mind...they should be rather cheap used. as for cabs, check out some used marshall 1960A or B cabs...i personally prefer the B, but then again there's not exactly a huge difference in tone between those two....

peavey 5150 + marshall 1960 = tone heaven for anything heavy, trust me!

 

[WinterSolstice]

mh...i dunno about canadian prices, but when talking about bang for the buck the peavey 5150 is the first thing that comes to mind...they should be rather cheap used. as for cabs, check out some used marshall 1960A or B cabs...i personally prefer the B, but then again there's not exactly a huge difference in tone between those two....

peavey 5150 + marshall 1960 = tone heaven for anything heavy, trust me!

As a reference for this set up, I'd suggest picking up My Dying Bride's For Darkest Eyes DVD. The show they played in Poland there had that very set up. Andrew used a BC Rich Ironbird with an active EMG 81 or 85 and Calvin used an Ibanez with some kind of humbucker (his sound was slighter bassier than Andrew's). One of the few people who've actually been able to get a tone from a Peavy that sounded good to my ears.

Hey Fragle - here's a question for you: Bogner vs. Framus. I'd like to test both brand of amps at some point.

 

[Fragle]

i've never played a bogner - i'd love to try the überschall, though. seems to be the perfect amp for me...super hotrodded marshall but more modern - but the framus is pretty cool, although i got to admit that i only bought it because i got it REALLY cheap.
the framus clean channel is outstanding, pretty much the best clean channel on a higain amp that i've ever played, and the engl's i owned had great sounding cleans.
the crunch channel doesn't sound the way i want without a boost (but then again, i also use a boost in front of the 5150 or any amp i own for that matter ) but with a tubescreamer it's pretty cool. i'm kinda undecided whether i should use the notch switch engaged or disengaged....the normal setting is kinda honky, whereas the notched setting pushes it a bit too far i think...but with the mids way up it's fine, so that's what i tend to use most.
the lead channel is pure insanity....
all in all, it's a very unforgiving and tight amp, very sensitive to your guitar choices, and covers a wide range of heavy sounds. the bottom end is unreal, too...easily on par with a recto, but way tighter. the 2nd master volume is a great thing, actually it's the feature that i liked best on my engl. also, without the boost it's virtually noiseless, even on the lead channel with the gain cranked...impressive
with the notch switch engaged, it's pretty much like a tighter and clearer recto, whereas the regular setting is a sound all of it's own, i've never heared anything like it before.

does it sound good? yes, definitely!
does it sound 1000 € better than the 5150? no way....

 

[Brooks]

Dont settle, buddy. Its better to wait a little longer and save a little more, and get something that you're gonna wait to use for a while, not just an "oh well" gear. Especially something important like a half stack.

I'd look for a used 5150 or something.

 

[eaeolian]

I'd look for a used 5150 or something.

Ding ding ding ding! They're not everyone's cuppa, but they're a far better amp than the Marshall MGs or Ibbys. Still the best bang form the buck out there. I've seen halfstacks with the Peavey cab go for a grand.

 

[Anvil]

Well today I went to about 4 different music stores, in search for the perfect sound.

Of course, I just had to plug into a Marshall stack. TSL series. My god. I wantie.

Anyways, in my quest for a new amp head and cabinet, I've come to the conclusion that price wise, here in Canada, I'll need to spend about $2000 to get something decent. So instead, I'm going to go down to seattle, or order off of musiciansfriend.com or music123.com. If someone has a better online music store site, please let me know.

So far I've seen that yes, the Peavey 6505 (5150) will be the best way to go for price and sound combined, unless I can find a Peavey Triple XXX for cheap... That thing CRUNCHES. Cabinet wise, I'm not quite sure... but hopefully something with 4, 12" celestions.

Anyways, Thanks for far to everyone who has given me some help, and also for future help.

 

[Fragle]

If someone has a better online music store site, please let me know.

www.ebay.com

 

[Anvil]

www.ebay.com

Oh I've been watching for quite a while.

 

[Fragle]

i've never played a bogner - i'd love to try the überschall, though. seems to be the perfect amp for me...super hotrodded marshall but more modern - but the framus is pretty cool, although i got to admit that i only bought it because i got it REALLY cheap.
the framus clean channel is outstanding, pretty much the best clean channel on a higain amp that i've ever played, and the engl's i owned had great sounding cleans.
the crunch channel doesn't sound the way i want without a boost (but then again, i also use a boost in front of the 5150 or any amp i own for that matter ) but with a tubescreamer it's pretty cool. i'm kinda undecided whether i should use the notch switch engaged or disengaged....the normal setting is kinda honky, whereas the notched setting pushes it a bit too far i think...but with the mids way up it's fine, so that's what i tend to use most.
the lead channel is pure insanity....
all in all, it's a very unforgiving and tight amp, very sensitive to your guitar choices, and covers a wide range of heavy sounds. the bottom end is unreal, too...easily on par with a recto, but way tighter. the 2nd master volume is a great thing, actually it's the feature that i liked best on my engl. also, without the boost it's virtually noiseless, even on the lead channel with the gain cranked...impressive
with the notch switch engaged, it's pretty much like a tighter and clearer recto, whereas the regular setting is a sound all of it's own, i've never heared anything like it before.

does it sound good? yes, definitely!
does it sound 1000 € better than the 5150? no way....

maybe i should add that the cobra is WAAAAY clearer and more defined than the 5150 will ever be (just did an A/B comparison )