Anybody ever use a mode 4 cab?
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Jaymz
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Nozzle
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It's been a while since I've seen one, but I remember that being the case. IIRC, the rear panel is all birch ply, and there's a mono jack, compared to the crappy switching jack and particle board backs of the standard 1960 series cabs.
I just remembered that we used mode4 cab a while a go on a recording:
http://www.redfivestudio.net/anttim/ (the first song: St.Hood) , quad tracked (1&2: engl E530 pre + peavey50/50 poweramp -> 1960A, 3&4: 5150 -> mode4)
I think it sounded pretty good and I can post raw clips if you're interested. To me it sounded like the high mids were a bit nasty sounding in the room, but it sounded better recorded. We used very little gain on the mode4 tracks because those tracks were only used to complement the more scooped high gain sound of the engl, and they sounded really nice together IMO.
.Antti
http://www.redfivestudio.net/anttim/ (the first song: St.Hood) , quad tracked (1&2: engl E530 pre + peavey50/50 poweramp -> 1960A, 3&4: 5150 -> mode4)
I think it sounded pretty good and I can post raw clips if you're interested. To me it sounded like the high mids were a bit nasty sounding in the room, but it sounded better recorded. We used very little gain on the mode4 tracks because those tracks were only used to complement the more scooped high gain sound of the engl, and they sounded really nice together IMO.
.Antti
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Hey guys, if you have a shitty cab there are some advices to improve it.
Open the cab.
Check which speakers are mounted and replace them if they're not what you want.
Seal every side internally.
Put some foam in the back panel and if you want (check with your ears) in every side.
Check the wires and the connections. Replace the wires if they are thin or damaged.
Now your shitty cab becomes less shitty.
Open the cab.
Check which speakers are mounted and replace them if they're not what you want.
Seal every side internally.
Put some foam in the back panel and if you want (check with your ears) in every side.
Check the wires and the connections. Replace the wires if they are thin or damaged.
Now your shitty cab becomes less shitty.
My band got our new album mixed at Fascinationstreet Studio in Sweden this August, and we ended up using a oversized Mode Four cab on the guitar reamping. We did AB-testing with a Mesa cab with Vintage 30, a Engl vintage cab and the Mode Four, and the Marshall one definately had the best sound for what we needed. We used a Mesa dual rectifier amp and a Diezel Herbert for the reamping, but ended up using only the Diezel on the album. Guitars used while tracking were PRS Custom 22 with a DiMarzio D-Sonic humbucker. The cab-miking that ended up being used on the album was a Shure SM57, facing the side of the cone, or whatever it's called.
Grave Desire
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yeah..but what do the guys at fascination street know? (sarcasm..)
Seriously though, I guess they aren't technically v30's..but in the studio it really sounded pretty good to me. I had a choice between the oversized mode 4, the 5150 cab, and the jsx cab. and to me it sounded the best. but what do i know?(no sarcasm)
I think most people will agree here that bad mic placement or amp set up will have a far worse impact then using a mode 4 or a cab with real v30's.
Seriously though, I guess they aren't technically v30's..but in the studio it really sounded pretty good to me. I had a choice between the oversized mode 4, the 5150 cab, and the jsx cab. and to me it sounded the best. but what do i know?(no sarcasm)
I think most people will agree here that bad mic placement or amp set up will have a far worse impact then using a mode 4 or a cab with real v30's.
I have meesed around alot with mic placemnt on my cab. I tried a i5, 57, and a c3000. i5 was way to harsh, the 57 was ok, and I got some cool sounds from the c3000. I guess with me its more a matter of personal taste. It just isn't the cab for me. I wish i still had my 1960AV
Jaymz
Stymphalian Productions
I thought the Mode 4 was generally classed as not a great recording amp due to the head. Id be interested to try the cab with a new head, I think that it could be pretty sweet. But im my experience with the whole halfy the head just didnt cut the mustard, I guess thats the only reason my older recording werent very good. I still think the cab could be put to better use via a combo with another head. 
I just like my old 1960AV better I guess. If I ever got another cab though, I would probably go for either a reg. 1960, or an oversized mesa.
Doesn't the reg. 1960 have G12T-75's in it IIRC? If so, you'd better get anything other than that
. The Mesa cabs are great but damn expensive.Lately I'm liking the 75's. I was also considering trying out something like CJWALL's setup, which is 2 75's, and 2 Vintage 30's in an X pattern. I've always been interested in setups like this, and after hearing his recordings, it has me thinking this would be a very cool sound.
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The Bogner Uberkabs use two 75s and two V30s in an X pattern. They seem like they should mix well. The 75s are brighter with a big bottom end, while the V30s are darker with tighter bass and a much stronger midrange emphasis. For modern metal tones, they seem like an ideal match.
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I realize this thread is dead as fuck, but I'll whack it with the defibrillators for a second here, just to drop in my 2 cents.
I've got a lightly modded 6505+ (proper bias, oddball preamp tube selection), and I play through an MF280, and get lots of compliments on the tone from other guitar players. The one I like the most is that, it doesn't sound like any 5150 they've ever heard before, which is nice I guess. I wouldn't say it's great for brutal pube-smoldering metal but it's got enough balls to raise eyebrows for sure.
I've got a lightly modded 6505+ (proper bias, oddball preamp tube selection), and I play through an MF280, and get lots of compliments on the tone from other guitar players. The one I like the most is that, it doesn't sound like any 5150 they've ever heard before, which is nice I guess. I wouldn't say it's great for brutal pube-smoldering metal but it's got enough balls to raise eyebrows for sure.
