really outdated.. but i always like the interface.. was wondering if anybody is still a devoted pod farm user?
anybody still using POD Farm?
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He's Dead, Jim
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I know mixing is just a hobby for many of us, which means we can't devote hours on end to learning from the ground up. But your threads on here and SS.org are basically "Can you give me presets," or questions like this where I think you expect to get magic results, or asking questions about plugins or how to use certain VSTs when you could find that information in the user manual or by some moderately creative Googling.
The only way you're going to learn how to be good at mixing is to sit down, give yourself several hours, and use your ears. I searched endlessly for POD Farm presets and guitar EQ tips and compressor attack and release times for months when I first got interested in home recording, and ultimately it comes down to "scoop out shit with the EQ that doesn't sound good and add a little of the shit that does sound good, but don't do too much of either" and "compress until it sounds punchier, but don't do too much." That's literally 90% of mixing. An EQ is an EQ is an EQ. A compressor is a compressor is a compressor. If you want references to work off of, which seems like what you're most concerned with, (a) find Rock Band/Guitar Hero stems on YouTube and download them using YouTube to MP3, and (b) find isolated instrument sections of your favorite songs and load them into your DAW, then listen and use Voxengo Span to examine your own instruments' frequency response.
As for POD farm, it's the same as what I just said- suck out some nasty shit with EQ (usually some low mids and a couple of notches in the 3-4k range), and add a couple of db around 1300 hz. Maybe add a small amount of thump around 100 hz. That's it. High pass and low pass at 60 hz and 11000 hz, or around there. If it still doesn't sound good, examine your signal chain and play with the amp/cab/mic models. Hard to go wrong with the Cali Diamond Plate, Mesa cab, and condenser mic combo. But I figured all that out by just listening to what sounds good and doesn't sound good relative to professional mixes. Hope that helps.
The only way you're going to learn how to be good at mixing is to sit down, give yourself several hours, and use your ears. I searched endlessly for POD Farm presets and guitar EQ tips and compressor attack and release times for months when I first got interested in home recording, and ultimately it comes down to "scoop out shit with the EQ that doesn't sound good and add a little of the shit that does sound good, but don't do too much of either" and "compress until it sounds punchier, but don't do too much." That's literally 90% of mixing. An EQ is an EQ is an EQ. A compressor is a compressor is a compressor. If you want references to work off of, which seems like what you're most concerned with, (a) find Rock Band/Guitar Hero stems on YouTube and download them using YouTube to MP3, and (b) find isolated instrument sections of your favorite songs and load them into your DAW, then listen and use Voxengo Span to examine your own instruments' frequency response.
As for POD farm, it's the same as what I just said- suck out some nasty shit with EQ (usually some low mids and a couple of notches in the 3-4k range), and add a couple of db around 1300 hz. Maybe add a small amount of thump around 100 hz. That's it. High pass and low pass at 60 hz and 11000 hz, or around there. If it still doesn't sound good, examine your signal chain and play with the amp/cab/mic models. Hard to go wrong with the Cali Diamond Plate, Mesa cab, and condenser mic combo. But I figured all that out by just listening to what sounds good and doesn't sound good relative to professional mixes. Hope that helps.
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
Sell your line 6 interface, buy a real one, a DIbox, use new strings, play tight, and use a trusted good amp sim with the correct amount of distortion. A bit of filtering like previously stated, and you're good to go.
If you don't do that, you just can't sound even decent, and that's an "end of story" there ! Seriously, your raw tone should already sit well in your mix without even starting the mix. It should just sound "good" to start with.
To answer the question, no I am not, but I liked to use it a lot for effects. I think it pales in comparison with what's out there these days, except for a couple amp sims including the cali plate and a couple others.
If you don't do that, you just can't sound even decent, and that's an "end of story" there ! Seriously, your raw tone should already sit well in your mix without even starting the mix. It should just sound "good" to start with.
To answer the question, no I am not, but I liked to use it a lot for effects. I think it pales in comparison with what's out there these days, except for a couple amp sims including the cali plate and a couple others.
Cephara
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I think the UX2 from line 6 is decent enough, but a pre amp is quite helpful with certain instruments like bass. Pod Studios Amp Sims are decent, but their cab sims are just awful. Same with Amplitube. Cab simulation is were all your tone and character is at. The effects from pod studio are decent, but I have since moved away from them using mainly t-rack's tape echo and classic studio reverb. As for effects, I don't use much beyond a low mixed chorus, but a lot of free modulations are out there (wish I would have kept up with c++ and went into electrical engineering). It was an awesome learning tool, but ultimately held me back.
To answer your question, no I have since quit using it completely.
To answer your question, no I have since quit using it completely.
Its easy for a quick tone to put over a guitar cover but it's not the best thing if you want a good tone for a mix. The only real reason I kept my UX1 is to use it when i'm jamming and messing around.
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
I had the UX2 (the red version) and when I upgraded to a Profire 2626 all of a sudden everything I listened on my headphones was more 3D. I got the same impression later when I switched to my apogee duet. I would really stay away from the low budget line 6 gear, not that you can't produce good results with it, but it did affect recording enough to be noticeable in the long run.
nezvers
Beast
Default Pod Farm is meh, but if you have Metal Shop expansion, than you can have something that really works. It was only reason why selling UX2 as bit hard, but I'm still owning Metal shop and thinking to get base Pod Farm and use it with my profire 2626 (even after having recabinet 4 & TSE 50x v2).
Yeah it may sound bit plastic-ish, but it just work and can have in your face sound (if use TS + Cali Plate + threadplate cab).
Yeah it may sound bit plastic-ish, but it just work and can have in your face sound (if use TS + Cali Plate + threadplate cab).
Megin
Member
I had ux2 and metalshop. Tried others presets and they never worked for me. Not that they were bad but they never sounded how I wanted. That's how I realised what works for others...
Fox Mulder
The Truth Is Out There
nezvers
Beast
Spectivum
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A band local to me used the Pod Farm Spinal Puppet on their first album. Amazing guitar tone.
You can get good results if you know what you're doing. Do *not* use other people's presets.
You can get good results if you know what you're doing. Do *not* use other people's presets.
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
I quite like the cleans as well, and the effects, but I would still not use a line6 interface especially since now it is not mandatory to have one.
JasinElric
Straf Drah Studio
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IMO, great for quick demo stuff, no running an interface through something else for monitoring just to get a DI and re-amp later on. Not so great in terms of versatility with PODFarm as a VST. If you're going the Sim route and use the UX for a DI, at the very least use better Sims than PODFarm.
For a serious release, I would count out the UX all together. Laziness isn't worth it, considering all the effort that goes into the recording/production process.
For a serious release, I would count out the UX all together. Laziness isn't worth it, considering all the effort that goes into the recording/production process.
Winston Wolf
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That's the only thing I liked about Podfarm.So I just used free version of Podfarm Elements.Not anymore,since Cubase 8 now includes a proper tuner,
and there STILL is no 64 bit version of Podfarm for MAC / VST (all other
formats are 64 bit,including AU)
xplanet2112
Member
I am using Pod Farm just for jaming with my guitars or bass along with whatever because it just quick and easy to use but only use it on my everyday/normal boot not my audio one for recording. I do however like the tape delay on it.. alot... and I think you can get some decent demo standard bass tones from it.
I am still using a UX2 but I would like to upgrade so what do you guys suggest would a good step up? Budget could be up to £400 and sorry for the thred hijack
I am still using a UX2 but I would like to upgrade so what do you guys suggest would a good step up? Budget could be up to £400 and sorry for the thred hijack
